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標題 [新聞] 投資者狀告迪士尼 指控"用詭計轉嫁成本"
時間 Sun May 21 14:45:54 2023


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Disney Investor Lawsuit: “Cost-Shifting” Streaming Scheme Alleged – The Hollywood Reporter
Investors take issue with former CEO Bob Chapek's optimism about Disney+'s growth and expected profitability. ...

 

THR的報導:

Disney Hit With Investor Suit Over Alleged “Cost-Shifting Scheme” In
Streaming Division

Investors take issue with former CEO Bob Chapek's optimism about Disney+'s
growth and expected profitability.

BY WINSTON CHO    MAY 15, 2023 4:45PM

Disney’s lofty subscriber growth and profitability targets for its streaming
service have drawn a lawsuit from investors who claim that the entertainment
giant misled them about the extent of its losses.

A suit filed on May 12 in California federal court accuses Disney of engaging
in a fraudulent scheme designed to hide Disney+ costs and make forecasts that
it would be profitable by 2024 believable. It takes aim at ousted CEO Bob
Chapek’s alleged “cost-shifting scheme” to first air certain shows meant
to be Disney+ originals on legacy TV networks to conceal the platform “
suffering decelerating subscriber growth, losses, and cost overruns,” the
suit says.

The suit details Disney’s pivot to prioritizing streaming amid the pandemic.
While most of the company’s businesses suffered as its theme parks, resorts
and cruise lines were shuttered and movie theaters were forced to close,
subscriptions to Disney+ rapidly took off. Against this backdrop, Chapek
decided to “go all in” on the platform, announcing a major reorganization
of the company’s media and entertainment operations. Under the new reorg,
distribution and commercialization activities were centralized into the
Disney Media and Entertainment Distribution (DMED) arm, which essentially
became responsible for the monetization of all content globally. Investors
say that the reorganization represented a “dramatic departure from Disney’s
historical reporting structure and was hugely controversial within the
Company because it took power away from creative content-focused executives
and centralized it in a new reporting group” led by Chapek lieutenant Kareem
Daniel, who alongside his mentor, “exerted near complete control over the
company’s strategic decisions around content,” according to the complaint.

From December 2020 to November 2022, Chapek and Daniel repeatedly misled
investors about the success of Disney+ by concealing the true costs of the
platform and the difficulty of maintaining robust subscriber growth in
addition to claiming that it was on track to achieve profitability with 230
to 260 million paid global subscribers by the end of 2024, the suit claims.
This includes an allegedly fraudulent plan to debut certain shows that were
supposed to be Disney+ originals, including The Mysterious Benedict Society
and Doogie Kameāloha, M.D., on its TV networks, like the Disney channel.

“By doing so, a significant portion of the marketing and production costs of
the shows were shifted away from Disney+ and on to the legacy platform,”
reads the complaint.

The suit says the plan was a “motivating factor” behind the reorganization,
which was announced a month before The Mysterious Benedict Society went into
production. It also takes issues with statements from Chapek in December 2020
that touted gains. “Disney+ has exceeded our wildest expectations with 86.8
million subscribers as of December 2,” he said. “This success has bolstered
our confidence in our continued acceleration towards a DTC-first business
model.”

Chapek additionally discussed how the company’s new distribution and
commercialization team empowers creative teams to “make the high-quality
branded entertainment they believe will resonate with audiences.” The slides
that accompanied the presentation reiterated the company’s estimate Disney+
would be profitable by the end of 2024. These new forecast represented an “
astounding three-fold increase from prior estimates without any degradation
in expected profitability for the segment,” according to the complaint.

After acknowledging that subscriber growth had slowed in 2021, Disney in
November 2022 reported that it missed analyst estimates by wide margins on
revenue, sales and earnings. The company’s direct to consumer arm, which
includes Disney+, ESPN+, Hulu and Hotstar, reported an operating loss of
$1.47 billion — up from a $630 million loss in the same quarter the year
prior. Disney’s stock plummeted by more than 13 percent.

After Bob Iger returned to lead the company two weeks later, he made clear
that an important component of restoring Disney’s success would be to return
power back to creative executives, including distribution decisions. The suit
points to the statement as evidence that Chapek’s comments on his
reorganization were meant to mislead investors. It also argues that Disney’s
fiscal second quarter earnings last week, which showed that Disney+ lost
subscribers for the second quarter in a row, is further proof “confirming
that the 2024 Disney+ targets had never been achievable.”

Chapek, Daniel and CFO Christine McCarthy were named in the complaint.

“We are aware of the complaint and intend to defend vigorously against it in
court,” said Disney in a statement.

May 16, 9:34 a.m. This story has been updated with Disney’s statement to The
Hollywood Reporter.

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非常長的報導 所以我就長話短說 能精簡就精簡 簡單說明一下就好。



簡單說,就是迪士尼的投資者要告迪士尼,

指控迪士尼用欺詐的手段,藉由把D+原創影視作品的成本用"電視播映授權費用"攤平,

誤導他們串流原創作品沒有賠錢甚至賺錢的假象。



5月12號加州聯邦法院受理了一件圖謀詐欺案件,

控訴迪士尼的串流平台試圖藉由把,

本應在D+平台首映的D+原創作品,轉到旗下電視台或子串流平台首播

讓這些電視台(例如迪士尼頻道)與串流平台(例如HULU)給付高額的授權費用給D+,

然後用這個授權費用來打平成本,

製造這些內容沒有虧錢的,讓D+將在2024年開始盈利轉正的說法變得更有說服力的假象。



控訴的投資客把矛頭直指前CEO Bob Chapek的"成本轉移計劃",

也就是這個詐欺圖謀的主要計畫內容,

並且控訴這是在隱藏迪士尼串流平台面臨的重大問題,

包含訂閱戶流失、平台損失,以及成本失控的現象。



然後報導提到,從2020年12月到2022年11月,

Chapek跟他的副手卡林姆丹尼爾多次誤導投資者對D+的前景與營利性,

藉由隱藏平台真實支出跟隱瞞訂閱用戶的黏著程度等關鍵資訊,

誤導投資者對D+有不切實際的過分樂觀判斷,讓他們以為2024年底將會轉虧為盈。



除了這種把製作與行銷成本大量轉移到旗下電視網與子串流平台的做法之外,

Chapek還畫大餅,聲稱迪士尼的新發行與行銷團隊能支援迪士尼

"提供能與觀眾產生共鳴、高品牌價值的娛樂內容"。



最後報導以迪士尼串流平台(D+ Hulu ESPN+ Hotstar)在2022年11月的報告中,

營運損失14.7億美金,與前一年同比季度損失(6.3億美金)比,損失持續擴大作結。

同時提到迪士尼的股價慘跌13%。


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我其實能理解投資者的不爽

因為Chapek吹D+營利性這件事情其實發生在2020年12月

你如果看迪士尼股價就會發現,

迪士尼股價在2020年底開始迎來一波大漲潮,

導致2021年3月迎來了股價的高峰,幾乎到了200元。



也就是說這邊衝高的股價是因為公司的說明,

讓投資人對D+未來前景與營利非常樂觀導致的。



而現在迪士尼股價在哪裡呢??

91元



等於是被當韭菜腰斬了,

而如果當初的樂觀前景真的是迪士尼騙出來的,

無怪乎他們會想提告。



其實電影上迪士尼也搞了類似的東西,

例如雷神索爾4,帳面上其實是有賺錢的,

但是如果你查細項,有大量的收入來自於串流平台與電視播映授權費用,

如果是像以前,賣電影授權給網飛,賺網飛的錢,那確實可以算是收入,

問題是現在迪士尼已經是自已作莊,


是迪士尼自己的串流平台與電視台,花大錢買迪士尼自己的電影,

這種作法讓你看到雷神索爾4有小賺,

說白了只是把虧損轉嫁到其他地方而已。



都是套路阿~~



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aCCQ: 美媒:巨石強森團隊故意外流《黑亞當》財務報表
也不是特例了1F 05/21 14:50
KingKingCold:轉錄至看板 C_Chat                                  05/21 14:55
eva00ave: 黑亞當財務報表被自己流出
和作假帳是兩回事好嗎
真的超失敗的東西dc連財報都不敢放出來
只會在推特上說電視盒的點擊率怎樣而已3F 05/21 15:01
ssarc: 欠教育的投資人,讓你們花錢支持教育是你們的榮幸好嗎7F 05/21 15:02
cucusow: 現在串流更可以用會計手法來讓帳變更美,股價好時股東都裝沒看見,不好時就向政府叭叭抗議 XD9F 05/21 15:03
TimmyJiang: 這聽起來跟老闆讓自己的公司互相開一堆發票營造出高金額的銷貨收入好像11F 05/21 15:08
protess: 明明在談作假帳,結果提個和本文不相關的報表外流是怎樣13F 05/21 15:16
likeaprayer: 黑亞當那個外流財報 串流部分就有相同問題15F 05/21 15:16
mkopin: 為什麼看起來好像做假帳o.o16F 05/21 15:16
likeaprayer: 現在只要有自家串流媒體的片商 串流營收都有這種
左手付錢給右手 這倒底算不算收入的問題17F 05/21 15:17
aCCQ: 你用我給的那標題去google文章看看吧19F 05/21 15:19
lpca: 電影收入來自於自家串流 除非價錢過高 不然沒問題吧20F 05/21 15:19
aCCQ: 我就不是在說外流這件事情啊 那文章內文就說到一樣21F 05/21 15:19
kimisawa: 這轉嫁成本做法是延續Iger的而已政策22F 05/21 15:20
aCCQ: 的情形阿 所以我才說不是特例23F 05/21 15:20
likeaprayer: 這很界定什麼叫合理價格 都是使用授權費的模式
  ^很難界定24F 05/21 15:21
aCCQ: #1ZcLnuMj (movie) [ptt.cc] [新聞] 美媒:巨石強森26F 05/21 15:22
[請益] 美媒:巨石強森團隊故意外流黑亞當財務報表 - Movie板 - Disp BBS
kenny1300175 新聞網址: 原標題: 美媒:巨石強森團隊故意外流《黑亞當》財務報表 Yahoo奇摩電影戲劇編輯部 2022年12月14日 【文/血紅蘭姆】DC擴展宇宙戲外的種種風波,簡直比戲裡飛簷走壁的劇情還更加精彩
likeaprayer: 最終該片能不能為自家串流平台帶來同等廣告或用戶27F 05/21 15:22
kingmusk: 其實一堆公司都這樣玩,子公司的員工應該很不爽28F 05/21 15:22
likeaprayer: 營收 都是不確定的29F 05/21 15:22
aCCQ: 板上也有我說的那一篇文章 看了下發現你還有推文耶30F 05/21 15:22
likeaprayer: 所以當時Deadline公布該報表後 就有不少質疑的聲音但目前在串流營收的計算 都還是採用這種模式31F 05/21 15:25
Tattoo: lgbt基金啦33F 05/21 15:26
likeaprayer: 畢竟一部片實際上為串流平台串造的營收 要精算幾乎不可能 用戶收入根本無法歸因於某部作品
廣告費用也是
最終就只能採計授權費這種比較明確的金額34F 05/21 15:26
kimisawa: 不過這邊跟電影無關,這次告的主角是原創影集部分38F 05/21 15:30
protess: @aCCQ 去看了內文了,抱歉變成標題黨<(_ _)>39F 05/21 15:30
omanorboyo: 只能靠小美人魚了40F 05/21 15:30
kimisawa: 因為花了太多錢做這些像女浩克這種垃圾,結果訂閱與投資沒有正成長41F 05/21 15:31
lpca: d+收入不差 一季大概有50億鎂 不過成本太高43F 05/21 15:38
turnpoint: 觀眾訂閱串流的月費,要怎麼歸因於是哪些片子的貢獻?如果不能精準歸因,那就會有很多爭議,好比你覺得D+要用多少成本認列雷4跟黑豹2?44F 05/21 16:00
eva00ave: dc那邊問題完全不一樣啊
黑亞當又不是第一部hbomax的串流院線
上面的人自己靠背自己旗下一部電影的串流算法欸
明明其他也一樣算就他賠錢歐
迪士尼這邊是股東靠背整個d+這種算法根本沒有真正的收益
迪士尼那邊是股東靠背這種串流騙投資
dc那邊是老樣子的內鬥
黑亞當輸了被針對罷了
不然論賠錢還輪不到他出來坦47F 05/21 16:03
sportsyzm: 之前票房跟串流拆帳,已經有演員在抗議了57F 05/21 16:06
likeaprayer: 其實電影圈常見的奇怪報表反而是故意把賺錢的寫成沒賺或賠錢XD 為了壓低在最終淨利潤抽成的創作者
能分走的金額 電影公司常幹這種事
最近一次鬧比較大的好像是波希米亞狂想曲
財報出來說波希米亞虧損5100萬美元58F 05/21 16:09
nwoyao: 都半斤八兩啦 這些商人背後在搞些有的沒的 意外嗎要不是之前新聞有報,我還不知道原來華納虧損的那麼誇張咧63F 05/21 16:25
GUDU: 肯定是神鬼認證66F 05/21 16:30
eva00ave: 華納虧損那又是另一個更北七的狀況了
那堆呆帳串流只佔一部分而已67F 05/21 16:36
dahlia7357: 本來就騙騙投資人的,串流哪有票房賺錢69F 05/21 16:48
likeaprayer: 串流現在對幾家公司來說都是超級大錢坑 收支平衡的那一天還不知道會不會到來
投入的營運成本過高 但用戶數已經到達瓶頸 沒跌就要偷笑了 更不用想大幅成長70F 05/21 16:50
linzero: 有的也是因為容易作帳,所以是透過電影等來洗錢的74F 05/21 17:16
seanidiot: 問題是有相關規範不能這樣做帳嗎?75F 05/21 17:39
cucusow: 只要有賺錢愛怎麼‘’合法‘’做帳都可以,偏偏現
在股價就是跌才會被告啊 XD 所以很多人希望人魚賠慘一點老鼠才會有很大壓力不要再來摧毀大家童年76F 05/21 18:09
darkbrigher: 這就等於作假帳了還在問不能這樣嗎79F 05/21 18:51
Spunnyge07: imb既視感80F 05/21 18:51
leon1309: 這樣會變成地表最強法務團內戰嗎81F 05/21 18:58
kingmusk: 法務+會計大戰82F 05/21 18:58
waijr: 一家標榜教育政治正確的公司居....83F 05/21 18:59
mkopin: 老鼠就是老鼠。84F 05/21 19:28
audreywei: 推文有些人混淆了兩件事 電影如何做帳不是本件重點問題在老鼠前CEO隱藏串流的支出(算到傳統電視台上)營造串流營運良好 公司方向正確且前景樂觀的假象
倘若為真 這是以不實財報詐欺投資人 違反證券交易法85F 05/21 20:19
laechan: D+ 的韓劇好看89F 05/21 20:45
petestar: 我就說迪士尼裡頭風向很亂吧?一連串的公關危機90F 05/21 20:55
kougousei: 這被告的點應該是公司有沒有對投資人誠實揭露
串流的坑有多大91F 05/21 22:50
samsonfu: 還以為訂閱繳黑人稅已經夠扯了,原來還有這招
真正失敗如沙贊2嗎?
之前說花木蘭串流營收一億就覺得很扯93F 05/22 01:14
eva00ave: ss2 ww1984 猛禽
全部沒有財報能看
而且是整個dc裡面唯三不給看的
傻讚二不確定不過財報出來要時間 要看之後有沒有相關報導96F 05/22 06:57
tonyian: 如果他表上價格跟過往賣給非自家差不多的話,你也不能說他詐欺阿101F 05/22 13:35
likeaprayer: e大說那個3部不是不給看 而是你平常看到的那些
是Deadline這家媒體自己計算的 平常這些資訊本來就屬於內部情報 偶爾才有媒體會取得片商資訊
但都是鬧出事情時居多
Deadline2020跟2021年因為疫情影響上映 他們認為
無法做出像以往那樣的計算 所以停了2年最賺錢電影的計算企劃 直到2022年的作品 他們才恢復這個年度企劃報導
至於媒體計算跟片商資訊 又是兩回事
像上面提到的 波希米亞狂想曲根據Drealine計算
淨利是好幾億美元 但片商資訊卻是虧損5100萬美元
事情鬧大了才被爆出來 片商的淨利被質疑根本有問題只是不想分紅給創作人 才有這麼離奇的財報
所以2020跟2021年上映的電影 不管哪一家都很難查到相關資訊 單純是Deadline停止企劃的關係103F 05/22 15:08
kingmusk: 波希米亞狂想曲超好看,那樣搞真的是有夠腦118F 05/22 15:25

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