看板 NBA作者 ocean0817 (砍柴人)標題 Re: [外絮] 蔡崇信對於KI 去年休假不滿才交易來JH時間 Sun Oct 17 11:49:53 2021
※ 引述《neak (neak)》之銘言：
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: Sources explained last year that Tsai was unhappy during Kyrie Irving’s hiatu
: s in the 2020-21 season.
: Thus, trading for James Harden not only assured a superteam, but provided insu
: rance in the event Kyrie wasn’t available — no matter what the reasons were/
: are.
: 有消息指出蔡崇信對於KI在20—21球季中的休假感到不滿，所以交易來 James Harden
: 不止是為了建立超級球隊，也是為了無論什麼原因 Kyrie 無法出席時買保險。
: （小編：老闆看得比較遠/有錢就是任性）
有人覺得說的個消息的記者很小咖
Woj在他的podcast節目 {The Woj Pod} 提到相關消息
標題:Bucks GM Jon Horst and NBA Today host Malika Andrews
大約前10分鐘
沒有完整的內容因此引述其他記者的摘要如下
https://twitter.com/Alec_Sturm/status/1449410960243011596
Alec Sturm
@Alec_Sturm
Woj, via his podcast:
"When the Nets made [the Harden] trade, they saw James Harden as a necessity. I think that they could already see that they may not be able to count on Kyrie Irving."
Woj, via his podcast:
"When the Nets made [the Harden] trade, they saw James Harden as a necessity.
I think that they could already see that they may not be able to count on
Kyrie Irving."
引述Woj的podcast
"當籃網進行 [哈登] 交易時，他們將登登視作必需品。我認為他們在當時已經發現
不能指望KI。”
https://twitter.com/Alec_Sturm/status/1449411222173065216
Alec Sturm
@Alec_Sturm
More Woj on James Harden being potential Kyrie Irving insurance, via his podcast:
"I think the day James Harden arrived in Brooklyn, Kyrie Irving was expendable — if he chose to be expendable."
More Woj on James Harden being potential Kyrie Irving insurance, via his
podcast:
"I think the day James Harden arrived in Brooklyn, Kyrie Irving was
expendable — if he chose to be expendable."
“我認為登登抵達布魯克林的那一天，KI就成為了可有可無的犧牲品——如果KI自己
選擇成為犧牲品的話。”
(在podcast中Woj有提到交易來登登有一部份原因是為了在未來KD的續約談判上
買一份保險，避免當KI出麻煩時影響到KD的續約意願，所以交易來了登登，對KI
的態度就比較輕鬆了)
ttps://twitter.com/Alec_Sturm/status/1449412374461566977
Woj on James Harden contract extension talks: “I don’t think there’s great
alarm about James Harden holding off to sign.”
"It makes sense monetarily [and] he loves what they have there."
Woj談論關於籃網與登登提前續約
“我認為目前沒有登登拒絕續約的警訊。”
“因為美金很香[而且]登登喜歡他們在那裡擁有的東西。
https://twitter.com/Alec_Sturm/status/1449414019031392259
Alec Sturm
@Alec_Sturm
Woj says: "Right now, [the Nets] are not assuming" that Kyrie will "change course" and get vaccinated.
(Via The Woj Pod)
Woj says: "Right now, [the Nets] are not assuming" that Kyrie will "change
course" and get vaccinated.
(Via The Woj Pod)
Woj 說：“現在，[籃網] 沒有假設KI會幡然悔悟並接種疫苗。
https://twitter.com/Alec_Sturm/status/1449413761660604418
Alec Sturm
@Alec_Sturm
Woj describes the trade market for Kyrie Irving as “dicey":
“You just don’t know what you’d be trading for. You don’t know whether he wants to play — does he want to play for you? Does he want to play at all?"
Alec Sturm
@Alec_Sturm
Cont.: 'He wanted Brooklyn, he wanted Kevin Durant, he wanted to play for his childhood team and there have been a lot of instances where it's fair to question how much he wanted to play."
Woj describes the trade market for Kyrie Irving as “dicey":
“You just don’t know what you’d be trading for. You don’t know whether he
wants to play — does he want to play for you? Does he want to play at all?"
Cont.: 'He wanted Brooklyn, he wanted Kevin Durant, he wanted to play for his
childhood team and there have been a lot of instances where it's fair to
question how much he wanted to play."
Woj評價目前KI的交易市場是很冒險的：
“你根本不知道你要交易來的是什麼。你不知道他是否想打球——他想為你打球嗎？
或是他還想繼續打球嗎？你知道他想來布魯克林，他想要KD，他想為他的童年球隊
效力，總之有很多例子能合理質疑他到底有多想打球。”
https://twitter.com/Alec_Sturm/status/1449414833372270599
Alec Sturm
@Alec_Sturm
On his podcast, Woj says no traction yet on a poential Kyrie-Simmons trade from Philly:
“They have not made that call to Brooklyn and I don’t that they ever will. You never know, things could change, but they haven't made it yet [and] I'm not sure they're going to make it."
On his podcast, Woj says no traction yet on a poential Kyrie-Simmons trade
from Philly:
“They have not made that call to Brooklyn and I don’t that they ever will.
You never know, things could change, but they haven't made it yet [and] I'm
not sure they're going to make it."
Woj表示KI換西門的潛在交易目前對76人沒有任何吸引力：
“他們還沒給籃網打過那個☎，而我也不知道以後會不會打。你永遠不知道，情況
可能會有變化，我只知道他們目前還沒有打☎[而且]也不確定後會不會打☎。”
Woj是沒提到蔡崇信有沒有不爽，但是關於籃網交易登登的目的是一樣的
就是替KI的不確定性買保險，比起KI隨意的出賽態度
籃網當時應該更擔心因為KI造成未來在KD續約上談判失利
不過KD現在已經續約了，目前登登也沒有出現警訊，對KI的態度就比較無所謂了
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Re: [外絮] 蔡崇信對於KI 去年休假不滿才交易來JH
10-17 11:49 ocean0817.
推 baseballbin: 哈登感覺要進入退化期了 今年在應該會一直上不了罰球然後最後籃網變成kd單核帶隊 哈登回到第六人角色1F 10/17 11:52
推 melzard: 籃網想不到第二次組超大團還要被KI搞這齣3F 10/17 11:54
推 XXXaBg: 是說NBA以前有出現過愛打不打的球員嗎5F 10/17 11:55
推 Antares: 籃網的巔峰就kidd的那幾年了6F 10/17 11:56
推 ben780413: 雖然只隔一河 但初戀還是kidd+紐澤西籃網
搬家後就不是球隊迷了7F 10/17 11:58
推 Antares: 人都搞不定，總冠很難9F 10/17 11:59
推 md3q6e: 除非交易龜來控球 不然哈登怎麼可能去打第六人
好歹在火箭也是大三元常客11F 10/17 12:05
推 calvin0319: 沒KI 登登也不用綁手綁腳了啊 去年要不是沒受傷 公鹿早下去了13F 10/17 12:05
→ tomoti: 保險不是醬買的,醬只是將風險推更大,然後收益變更大16F 10/17 12:16
→ hbket: Harden熱身賽體型還是有點腫18F 10/17 12:33
→ Aggro: 鬍子之前季前更腫 還被大家截圖來笑19F 10/17 12:35
推 iso903306: 送走一個聲仔換一個玻璃心回來 還不是搞到自己 蔡不會答應吧22F 10/17 12:46
推 Amilous: 認真說 有KD、鬍子仍然很有競爭力，KI可以考慮拿去換負資產但仍有些許戰力的球員，
即使要貼籤也可以
反正當初簽KI、KD都是FA，沒損失什麼戰力25F 10/17 12:49
推 taikonkimo: 記得籃網要鬍子已經砸鍋賣鐵啦…
貼籤還有得貼嗎…重點還是要找到願意承擔ki職業態度的下家29F 10/17 12:56
推 auron4041: 就放著不管吧
說不定他突然澈悟呢 說不定他的上帝阿拉佛祖靈突然命令他打疫苗呢32F 10/17 12:58
推 sxzc: 等下會有人出來說你又開失智列車35F 10/17 13:14
推 gatsbyhsu: 還好KI走了，沒留在波士頓禍害我賽36F 10/17 13:35
→ mrif: 你賽打疫苗比沒打疫苗的確診數還高 他在你賽就能打37F 10/17 13:41
推 utcn92: 西門想去以他為主、容許犯錯的地方 籃網絕對不是38F 10/17 13:51
推 phix: 有鬍子就不用KI了 再練一個綠葉出來40F 10/17 14:09
推 greatlong: 哈燈就算不能買飯還是會超強啦，他打球非常聰明43F 10/17 14:37
推 kiddgogogo: 其實健康的KD加鬍子就夠強了,KI薪水如果可以拆換兩隻先發等級左右的綠葉就非常夠用了45F 10/17 15:43
推 Cishang: 西門去籃網還真不用投了對吧47F 10/17 16:03
推 roger0115: 哈登還是有點腫，速度也下降蠻多的，可能真的退化了50F 10/17 17:00
→ cys070: 就算退化，配合度還是屌打KI52F 10/17 17:45
推 Snowman: 鬍子只是喜歡偷吃步用罰球 實力還是在那裡的55F 10/17 18:03
→ cys070: 其實若之後無法買飯，他這幾年有長出控球，加上心態就算退化還是有一定強度
籃網說真的不太缺進攻，反而是防守56F 10/17 18:04
推 a701019: 兩個mvp等級，季後賽穩穩的，也不是沒冠軍的機會59F 10/17 18:26
推 yougood: 再買一隻龜= 網爆雷霆宇宙隊60F 10/17 19:18
→ chenfulin: 不會退化的很誇張的, 而且能上場就是屌打不上場的61F 10/17 20:24
推 rbull: 哈登就算狀態沒回來能分擔KD的責任就OK了62F 10/17 20:34
噓 andy831020: 說登登退化買不到飯的是雲吧
不知道今年阻擋犯規的細則有改？63F 10/17 20:49
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