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Dodgers Opinion: George Springer can rake in October.
He also deserves every boo LA rains down on him
LOS ANGELES — The Blue Jays’ George Springer is a gifted postseason player.
That much no one disputes. He’s hit 23 home runs in just under 80 playoff
games and has a knack for delivering when the lights are brightest. Including
his latest feat, a go-ahead homer that lifted Toronto over a heartbroken
Seattle team into the World Series. But when the World Series shifts to Los
Angeles next week, Dodgers fans won’t see just another clutch hitter. They’
ll see the man who helped cheat them out of a title in 2017.
藍鳥隊的 George Springer 是一名天生的季後賽好手,這點無人可否認。
他在不到 80 場季後賽中擊出 23 支全壘打,總能在鎂光燈最亮的時刻挺身而出。
最近,他又擊出一發致勝全壘打,幫助多倫多擊敗心碎的西雅圖,闖入世界大賽。
但當世界大賽下週轉戰洛杉磯時,道奇球迷看到的,不僅是一名關鍵時刻的強打者——
他們看到的,是一個 2017 年那個協助作弊、讓他們和冠軍擦身而過的人。
The boos he hears at Dodger Stadium will not come from nowhere. They will come
from seven years of memory, from the sound of a trash can echoing under
Minute Maid Park, and from a city that still feels robbed.
Springer 在道奇體育場聽到的噓聲,不會是無的放矢。
那是七年來的記憶,是休士頓 Minute Maid Park 底下垃圾桶的回音,
是一座仍感覺被搶奪走榮耀的,城市的憤怒。
MLB’s own investigation confirmed what most Dodgers players suspected even
during that Fall Classic: the Houston Astros used a camera in center field to
steal opposing catchers’ signs, then relayed that information to hitters
through banging noises in the dugout tunnel. Commissioner Rob Manfred’s
report laid it out plainly. The system was elaborate, it was illegal, and it
continued through the 2017 postseason. The Astros kept the championship, and
their players were given immunity in exchange for cooperating. Not one of them
faced suspension.
MLB 的官方調查證實了當年道奇球員早已懷疑的事:
休士頓太空人隊利用中外野的攝影機偷看捕手暗號,並透過休息區通道敲打垃圾桶,
把訊息傳給打者。
聯盟主席 Rob Manfred 的報告白紙黑字記載:
那套系統複雜、違法,並持續到 2017 年季後賽。
太空人保留了冠軍,而他們的球員則因配合調查而獲得免責,沒有任何一個人被禁賽。
Even journalists who have praised Springer’s leadership have refused to look
away from that history. Writing for the Toronto Star when Springer signed with
the Blue Jays in 2021, columnist Mike Wilner reminded local readers that “
Springer’s Houston Astros were the biggest bunch of cheaters in pro sports in
nearly a century.” He called it “the most brazen cheating scheme in
professional sports since the 1919 Chicago Black Sox.” And that’s from one
of their guys, not some LA blogger like me.
即使是讚賞 Springer 領導力的記者,也無法忽視這段歷史。
《多倫多星報》的專欄作家 Mike Wilner 在 Springer 2021 年加盟藍鳥時提醒讀者:
「Springer 所在的休士頓太空人,是近百年來職業運動中最大的作弊團體。」
稱這是「自 1919 年芝加哥黑襪事件以來,最厚顏無恥的作弊醜聞」。
這不是出自我這種洛杉磯球迷的口,而是他們自軍陣營的人說的話。
Springer, to his credit, has sometimes shown more awareness than his former
teammates. During the Astros’ 2020 spring training news conference, he said,
“I feel horrible for our sport, our fans, our city, our organization — just
fans in general. I regret everything.” The words sounded spontaneous, unlike
the short, lawyer-approved statements from Jose Altuve and Alex Bregman that
same day. Yet as Wilner pointed out, Springer still stopped short of a true
apology. There was regret, but not ownership. Yeah, you feel horrible, George.
Didn’t give that World Series ring back, though, did you?
值得正面評價的是,Springer 有時比前隊友稍具自覺。
2020 年春訓時,他曾在記者會上說:
「我對我們的運動、球迷、城市、球團——
還有所有球迷——都感到非常難過。我對一切都感到後悔。」
這句話不像 Jose Altuve 或 Alex Bregman 如唸稿般生硬,
但正如 Wilner 指出的那樣,Springer 仍未真正道歉。
他後悔,卻沒有承擔責任。對,George,你覺得難過——
但那枚冠軍戒指,你可沒還回去。
When asked about the scandal after arriving in Toronto, Springer mostly
brushed it off. “I believe in myself and I believe in my performances,” he
told reporters. “I think this is about the Blue Jays now.” His numbers since
2017 suggest he never needed a trash can to hit in the first place, but the
fact remains that he benefited from one in the most consequential October of
his life. He was the World Series MVP that year. He was the face of the Astros
’ celebration. And that ring still shines in every highlight reel that omits
how it was won.
加入藍鳥後,Springer 對醜聞的態度多半是淡化。
「我相信自己,相信我的表現,」他對記者說。
「我覺得現在重點在藍鳥。」
誠然,他自 2017 年以來的數據,證明他不靠垃圾桶也能打,但事實不變——
那年十月,他確實在那個體系下獲益,並因此拿下世界大賽 MVP,
成為太空人奪冠的象徵。而那枚戒指,仍在每段精華影片裡閃閃發光,
只是影片從來不提它是怎麼來的。
FanSided writer Mark Powell summed it up this week: Springer’s playoff
heroics don’t erase the trash-can era, and he will “be greeted accordingly
at Chavez Ravine.” Powell noted that “no one has forgiven Springer and the
Astros, not even their counterparts.” He also quoted former Dodger Cody
Bellinger, who said at the time, “Everyone knows they stole the ring from us.
” 2016 World Series champ Kris Bryant went even further, calling the Astros’
apology “sad” and “insincere.” Nothing about that anger has faded here.
FanSided 的作家 Mark Powell 本週寫道:
Springer 在季後賽的英勇表現無法抹去垃圾桶時代,
他「將在 Chavez Ravine
(道奇主場)受到應有的對待」。
Powell 指出:「沒有人原諒 Springer 或太空人,連他們的同行都沒有。」
他引用了前道奇球員 Cody Bellinger 的話:
「大家都知道他們偷走了我們的冠軍戒指。」
2016 年世界大賽冠軍 Kris Bryant 則說太空人的道歉「悲哀又虛假」。
這份憤怒,直到今天仍未平息。
Springer’s supporters like to point out that he was only one member of a team
culture run amok. True, he didn’t design the camera feed or invent the code.
But he swung with the benefit of knowing what pitch was coming, and that’s
enough to forever stain the result. In baseball, no advantage is more sacred
than surprise. Once it’s gone, the game becomes something else entirely.
Springer 的支持者會說,他只是那個失控文化中的一員,並非主謀。
沒錯,他沒有設計出那套系統,但他享受了洞悉球路的好處——這就足以永遠玷污結果。
在棒球裡,沒有比「出其不意」更神聖的優勢,一旦失去,這場比賽就變成了別的東西。
For Dodgers fans, that “something else” was Game 7 at Dodger Stadium, a
night that ended not in champagne but in disbelief. Clayton Kershaw later said
the loss haunted him for years. Justin Turner called it “a gut punch that
doesn’t go away.” They had every reason to think they’d earned a fair fight
. They didn’t get one.
對道奇球迷而言,那個所謂的「別的東西」,就是 2017 年世界大賽第七戰——
那個以失落而非香檳結束的夜晚。
Clayton Kershaw 說那場敗仗讓他多年難以釋懷;
Justin Turner 則形容那是「一記永遠不會消散的重擊」。
他們有理由相信自己在進行是一場公平的比賽——但事實並非如此。
That’s why this World Series meeting feels personal. Springer may now wear
Toronto blue, not Houston orange, but the uniform change doesn’t erase the
past. Every time he steps into the box at Chavez Ravine, the crowd will
remember the sound. They’ll remember the slow unraveling of that 2017 series,
the way the Astros seemed to never miss a breaking ball, the way every Dodger
pitch called for a fastball seemed doomed from the start.
這也是為什麼這次世界大賽的對決格外私密而情緒化。
Springer 現在穿的是藍鳥藍,不是太空人橘,但換了球衣並不代表過去被抹去。
每當他走上 Chavez Ravine 的打擊區,球迷就會憶起那聲聲敲擊,
記得 2017 年系列賽的崩壞、記得太空人如何總是準確打中變化球,
記得每次捕手暗號喊出快速球時,那種命中注定的絕望。
Springer has said the right things in spurts. He told The Athletic in 2020
that “we were all responsible.” It’s a step toward accountability, but
accountability doesn’t mean immunity from consequence. Fans aren’t bound by
Rob Manfred’s deals. They can deliver their verdict one chorus at a time.
Springer 有時說出一些貌似負責任的話。他在 2020 年告訴《The Athletic》:
「我們都該負責。」這是邁向承擔的一步,但「承擔」不代表免於後果。
球迷不受他們和 Rob Manfred 交換條件的約束——
他們可以用一波波噓聲,表達他們的裁決。
And let’s be clear: the boos aren’t just for Springer. They’re for the
system that let players skate while others lost jobs and reputations. They’re
for every pitcher who got sent down after being lit up in Houston. They’re
for former Dodger Mike Bolsinger, who never pitched in the majors again after
giving up four runs (oddly enough while pitching for Toronto) to that 2017
lineup and later filed a lawsuit claiming the Astros’ cheating altered his
career. They’re for the idea that cheating could be explained away as “just
part of the culture.”
而且要說清楚:那些噓聲不只是針對 Springer 個人。
它們是針對整個讓作弊者逃脫懲罰的制度;
針對那些因此丟掉飯碗、名聲受損的人;
針對每一位在休士頓被打爆、被下放的小聯盟投手;
針對前道奇投手 Mike Bolsinger ——
他在 2017 年對上那支太空人
(巧合的是他當時正效力於多倫多)被爆打四分,
之後再也沒回過大聯盟,還提告指控太空人的作弊改變了他的職業生涯。
那些噓聲,是對於「作弊只是文化一部分」這種說法的否定。
Springer’s numbers since leaving Houston have proved he’s still a great
player without the noise. But in Los Angeles, greatness isn’t the question.
Integrity is.
自從離開休士頓後,Springer 的數據證明他依然是名出色的球員。
但在洛杉磯,問題不是「他強不強」,而是「他誠不誠」。
Dodger fans aren’t likely to throw trash cans onto the field anymore; they
don’t need to. Their voices will do the work. It’s not cruelty. It’s memory
, collective and justified. It’s a fan base that has waited eight years to
look one of the central figures in that scandal in the eye and say, “We haven
’t forgotten.”
道奇球迷或許不再把垃圾桶扔上場——他們不需要。
只靠發聲就夠了。這不是殘酷,而是記憶——集體且正當的記憶。
這是一群等待了八年,只為在現場直視那位醜聞主角、告訴他「我們沒有忘記」的球迷。
Some will argue that it’s time to move on. They’ll say that the Dodgers have
since won their own titles in 2020 and 2024, that baseball has evolved, that
the sign-stealing scandal belongs to history. But history doesn’t vanish when
the calendar flips. It stays alive in the stories fans tell their kids and
the emotions that bubble up when a cheater returns to the scene of the crime.
有人會跟你爭,是時候放下了。
道奇都在 2020 和 2024 年奪冠了,棒球也已經往前走了,偷暗號事件該屬於歷史。
但歷史不會因日曆翻頁而消失。
它活在球迷講給孩子的故事裡,也活在當作弊者重返現場時,翻湧而出的情緒裡。
If Springer homers this week, respect the swing. He’s earned that. But
remember the circumstances that made him a household name in the first place.
And if he strikes out, let the noise rise from the Top Deck to the field level
until it drowns out the ghosts of 2017.
如果 Springer 本週再度開轟,請尊重那個揮棒——那是他憑實力擊出的。
但也請記得,是什麼讓他當年聲名大噪。
若他被三振出局,那就讓噓聲從看台最上層湧向場邊,直到淹沒 2017 年的怨靈。
The Astros’ championship banner still hangs in Houston, but in Los Angeles it
hangs like an asterisk. Springer was the MVP of that series, and for Dodger
fans, he’s still the face of the fraud.
太空人的冠軍旗依舊高掛休士頓,但在洛杉磯,那面旗幟打著一個星號。
Springer 是那個系列賽的 MVP,但對道奇球迷而言,他仍是那張詐欺犯的臉孔。
He will hear it in Games 3, 4, and 5. He should. And when the Dodgers take the
field, may the only banging that echoes through Chavez Ravine be the sound of
bats meeting balls the honest way.
他會在第三、四、五戰聽到噓聲——這理所當然。
而當道奇隊站上球場,
願 Chavez Ravine 回蕩的唯一敲擊聲,是球棒正直地擊中棒球的聲音。
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George Springer 的父親表示,水手球迷在 ALCS 的行為「令人不齒」:
「我從沒見過球迷對受傷的球員報以噓聲。
那些球迷現在將有一個非常漫長的休賽季來反省。」
讓我們看看WS,道奇球迷會如何歡迎 Springer 吧。
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[分享] 是的,George Springer,道奇迷記得2017
10-24 08:39 LABOYS
推 pccckk: 欠達爾一個冠軍2F 10/24 08:44
推 Artist: 只記得達比修也是很大受害者 被當時LA球迷罵超慘5F 10/24 08:56
推 Werth: 間接造成道奇當反派毀滅棒球7F 10/24 08:56
→ befly10015: 聯盟都不處理這件事真的很誇張 讓mlb變得毫無公信力9F 10/24 08:57
推 tarcowang: 印象中看過一篇報導達爾對蘿蔔說太鼓人知道他要投什麼球,蘿蔔還不相信。難怪Machado說達爾是他看過最聰明的人之一。14F 10/24 09:00
推 CrossroadMEI: 好了啦 主謀都70幾趴了 可見記者根本嘴巴講講 結果實際上還是沒很在乎17F 10/24 09:01
推 goury: 他今年到底發生什麼事,可以猛成這樣?19F 10/24 09:01
→ k33536: 這回應好像這幾天被抓到裝病躲兵役的藝人們21F 10/24 09:02
推 pett: 道奇加油 打爆作弊仔22F 10/24 09:03
推 amos30627: 有統計 他的鼓聲打席是第二多的 只少第一名一點點23F 10/24 09:04
→ amos30627: 這種作弊仔沒懲處就算了 世界冠軍頭銜應該被取消25F 10/24 09:06
推 jason1008: 為什麼一定要放下 作弊仔一輩子就承擔噓聲吧~
不然爽拿冠軍又沒任何責罰 根本逞罰被害者29F 10/24 09:11
→ mic73528: 爽阿 科技的勝利 打爛邪惡帝國31F 10/24 09:12
→ Lansbury: 這人的人格 跟隔壁NBA被抓得好像33F 10/24 09:13
推 luke417: 希望作弊仔這次不會得冠34F 10/24 09:16
推 CaminoI: 他現在還在大聯盟佔有一席之地爽領薪水 被他害慘一輩子下放小聯盟甚至從此回不來的投手 錢工作都沒有 公平嗎?35F 10/24 09:17
推 n61208: 藍鳥加油 藍鳥冠軍37F 10/24 09:18
→ CaminoI: 聯盟調查證實作弊 結果沒有進一步懲處 紀錄還留著也很扯38F 10/24 09:19
→ n61208: \Beat LA/39F 10/24 09:19
→ eellee: 是覺得就是仇恨的鎖鏈而已 輸球先噴表現得不好的 發現作弊又噴作弊仔 噴這麼爽都不用負責 那些被自家球迷噴受害41F 10/24 09:20
→ eellee: 者 球迷又為他們做了什麼 受害者才是最有資格講話的吧44F 10/24 09:20
→ CaminoI: 他還等得到機會 那些被他抹殺機會的選手呢?45F 10/24 09:20
→ same60710: 最衰的就是像達爾這種沒撐到20年就離開道奇 至今無冠的人吧 可憐46F 10/24 09:21
→ henry2346598: 輸球噴表現不好很正常吧 不然要溫良恭儉讓喔
重點是輸了卻是輸給作弊仔 這才是最不爽的48F 10/24 09:21
推 TrueTears: Springer* Altuve* Bregman* Correa*50F 10/24 09:22
推 CaminoI: 達爾當年還被躲迷追殺到要去看心理醫生治療 有夠慘51F 10/24 09:22
→ eellee: 笑死 馬上就跳出來一個雙標仔 可以噴輸球噴錯了也不是自己問題 作弊才算問題52F 10/24 09:23
→ eellee: 拜託自己想想自己講了什麼 這種嘴臉就跟我講的一樣 當球迷真爽可以一直噴都不用負責 噴錯了也是作弊仔的錯
所以自己也不用道歉 也不需要彌補受害者 要彌補是作弊仔的事 這邏輯超好笑55F 10/24 09:25
推 r60214: 達爾離戒指最近的一次 還被道奇球迷追殺 慘61F 10/24 09:29
推 ct13579: Carlos Beltran應該也是主導者,只是他退休了62F 10/24 09:30
噓 SYNACK: 打爆垃圾作弊仔63F 10/24 09:31
推 YDSK: 作弊沒啥好講的,被噴就是乖乖接受,不然還要體諒你嗎?笑死64F 10/24 09:35
推 kauw: 春天哥再爆打道奇吧,喜歡看奇蹟結果65F 10/24 09:35
→ YDSK: 一碼歸一碼,少在那邊帶風向混淆視聽66F 10/24 09:35
→ YDSK: 自己做錯事然後要受害者放下,這邏輯也是奇葩68F 10/24 09:36
噓 Nikagnef: 作弊仔就該噓 真該永ban這些髒球員69F 10/24 09:37
推 aintvrdfg: 就作弊仔,沒道歉沒沒收冠軍還想洗白70F 10/24 09:37
推 m323: 我覺得作弊仔跟簽賭打假球沒什麼不同啊 甚至更可惡71F 10/24 09:40
推 foxey: 桶聲若響 桶聲若響就是作弊仔72F 10/24 09:40
推 Timekeeper: 這篇寫的真好,作弊仔沒有終身禁賽就不錯了,在那叫什麼73F 10/24 09:41
推 MindWork: G5封王拿下WSMVP後把那個17戒指留在道奇球場吧春天哥75F 10/24 09:42
推 usoko: bangbangbang 吃我噓聲76F 10/24 09:42
推 amos30627: 作弊仔比吃藥的還可惡 整隊作弊 全聯盟三振率最低 吃藥的還需要揮到球77F 10/24 09:42
推 yeah8466: 本來很喜歡川哥 結果知道他是主導者後非常失望79F 10/24 09:44
推 seishin: 希望躲人狠狠教訓作弊仔80F 10/24 09:45
推 qeon: 在道奇主場噓死他81F 10/24 09:45
推 RZPTT: "那是七年來的記憶,
是休士頓 Minute Maid Park 底下垃圾桶的回音,
是一座仍感覺被搶奪走榮耀的,城市的憤怒。"
以上這段原po翻譯得太好了82F 10/24 09:48
推 sasman: 大谷幫學長復仇吧91F 10/24 09:54
推 visviva: 對齁,難怪一堆道奇粉專都在講他,原來是苦主XD93F 10/24 09:57
推 matsui725: 作弊還沒事 別跟我說以後還能名人堂耶94F 10/24 09:57
推 anper: 過了多年還是沒有走出來97F 10/24 10:01
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