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標題 [新聞] PS4用戶因使用仇恨言論而被封鎖數位遊戲
時間 Mon Apr 22 15:44:44 2019
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標題 [新聞] PS4用戶因使用仇恨言論而被封鎖數位遊戲
時間 Mon Apr 22 15:44:44 2019
PS4 GAMER LOSES ACCESS TO DIGITAL GAMES FOR VIOLATING SONY’S “HATE SPEECH”
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https://tinyurl.com/y26qx6er
PS4 Gamer Loses Access To Digital Games For Violating Sony's “Hate Speech” Policy - One Angry Gamer
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One of the dangers of an all-digital future is that gamers have no access rights to their library. What does that mean? It means that for gamers who s ...
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One of the dangers of an all-digital future is that gamers have no access
rights to their library. What does that mean? It means that for gamers who
still have access to discs or cartridges, they can still play games offline
even if their online account gets penalized. For gamers who purchased their
games digitally, it means that the platform holders can dictate access to
your games by enabling or disabling the licenses as they see fit. This is
what happened to one gamer who lost access to his PS4 games for a week for
violating PlayStation’s “hate speech” policy.
Since he requested anonymity, we’ll call him “Rob” for now. So Rob reached
out to One Angry Gamer, incensed that he had been temporarily suspended from
accessing the PlayStation Network and, much to his dismay, his PS4 gaming
library after violating the “hate speech” policy on April 19th, 2019.
Rob explained via e-mail…
“My account was temp banned for one week for calling people faggots and
niggers. This includes the temp revoking of the licenses for ALL digital
downloads in my library, however a game on a disc still works just fine. You
might not agree with my actions since I know you’re not a racist, but I am
and I don’t care. [It’s] fun to talk shit online and most people are racist
anyway, plus those terms are thrown around like hotcakes, so who gives a
shit. As I know you know, speech restrictions are a slippery slope and tend
to go beyond the initial reasons for their installment.”
Rob shared the e-mail that Sony sent him for violating the code of conduct,
which you can view below.
https://i.imgur.com/d0NFOnd.png
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The relevant part of the message reads…
This message is to inform you that your account has been observed violating
the PlayStation Network’s Terms of Service.
[…]
“Reason: Hate speech or other hateful content, including racism, sexism,
xenophobia, or hate directed at religious beliefs, cultural identity, gender
identity, or sexual orientation.
“Location: Community Post”
Rob fears that what may start with restrictions on “hate speech” may expand
into restrictions on “speech” in general; preventing people from talking
about certain current events, politics, etc. We’ve seen how Sony had no
qualms about extending the long arm of censorship to innocuous things like
fan-service and cleavage via their PS4 censorship policies, and so it’s not
hard to see why people might fear that the rules could be expanded in the
future regarding their policies on “hate speech”.
For now, though, Rob had access to his digital games temporarily restricted.
So when he attempted to play said games he was greeted with the following
message.
https://i.imgur.com/gTmcAf3.png
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The error prevents him from accessing the digital games in the library until
the suspension is up. He also shared a screenshot of his game library, where
his digital titles have locks on them during the suspension.
https://i.imgur.com/h9v5LgC.png
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ob didn’t take the suspension notice lying down, though. He explained that
he fired back at them with a snarky response that may have netted him a
permanent ban, writing…
“[…] it might be possible I’ve been perm banned now because I responded to
Sony’s email with ‘no worries! I’ve already decided not to buy a ps5 d.
White Pride Worldwide,’ so their mods might be getting salty hahaha. that’s
purely speculation though, […]
“To further clarify the reasons for the ban hammer, I already know why as I
stated in my previous email so it’s not a surprise to me that I got banned.
talking about forced ‘migration’ into the West, directing other PSN users
to various chans and White Nationalist content, and calling other players
niggers and faggots, etc.”
Sony lays it out rather clearly over on the PlayStation Code of Conduct page
that using any kind of offensive or inflammatory language will likely result
in a suspension or a ban.
However, what the page fails to clarify is that you will also lose access to
playing digital games. In fact, it doesn’t say anything about game
restrictions. Regarding account suspensions it simply states…
“Account suspension means that you cannot use your account to access
PlayStation Network for a set amount of time. A ban means that you will not
be able to use your account to access PlayStation Network at any point in the
future.
“Other users with their own local accounts on the same system can use their
account as normal.
”If an account has been permanently banned, we will not refund you for any
unused period of subscriptions or any unused wallet funds in line with the
SEN Terms of Service.”
Having community guidelines and rules is standard fare. Enforcing those rules
for those who participate in the community is common practice. However,
barring people from accessing their games for violating those community
guidelines is basically revoking their access to a product they paid for.
While most Left-wing collectivists will say that they’re glad someone who is
“racist” or “sexist” or “transphobic” or a “bigot” was banned from
PSN for violating the terms of service, restricting that person from
accessing their games crosses over into violating their consumer rights. That
’s not to mention that barring someone from playing a game they paid for is
entirely unlikely to change their personal views. In fact, they’re probably
just going to become more entrenched in those beliefs and express those views
even more vehemently elsewhere.
In the case of Rob, he was completely uninhibited in the way he tackled
various subject matter in the PlayStation community. Being temporarily
suspended from PSN for violating the rules is one thing, but preventing
someone from accessing their games is a step too far.
And let’s not forget that this isn’t the first time that Sony has done
this. Previously Sony had to apologize to a user for restricting his access
to his digital library because they were racist and didn’t understand
Mexican culture. They also banned a user for having a PSN ID that was fine
back in 2012 but is now considered politically incorrect, restricting his
access to his digital library in the process. This seems to be a growing
trend with some companies, taking it upon themselves to not only police their
own online communities but also trying to enforce their moral standards on
their users by policing access to gamers’ digital libraries.
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這事很有趣...
這位化名Rob的仁兄表示他喜歡在玩遊戲時和人對噴，然後他用了nigger和faggot。
因此違反了SONY的仇恨言論政策而被封了.....
被封就算了，他連自己買的PS4數位遊戲庫也都被封掉而不能玩這些數位版遊戲。
這問題就大了......
先不管嘴不嘴炮問題，人家花錢買的遊戲你說封就封？
正常來說不應該是禁言而已嗎？
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在PTT混久了會得到很多稱號，像我就有：
藍的、綠的、吱吱、蛆蛆、糞青、覺青、獨派、華腦、柯粉、網軍....
最近我發現我又多了：
五毛、瘋seafood、洗文的
可惜這些稱號都沒有屬性加成呢！
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推 : 不嘴不就好了，現代人就４太自由= =3F 04/22 15:46
→ : 問題在於玩的買的數位版遊戲也被禁玩4F 04/22 15:46
推 : 不然你要玩Xbox？5F 04/22 15:47
→ : 你可以禁言他 但遊戲他買的為啥不能玩?6F 04/22 15:47
推 : 這個可以告Sony 嗎？7F 04/22 15:48
推 : 她的回信表示她一定要嘴到底啊 White Pride Worldwide真心兇...8F 04/22 15:48
→ : 可能不行 因為SONY的條款有寫 只是沒特別說明連10F 04/22 15:48
推 : 一個字 索11F 04/22 15:48
→ : 遊戲庫也禁12F 04/22 15:48
推 : 任天堂&叉盒子：你看 誰叫你要買索尼主機13F 04/22 15:48
→ : 看條款怎麼寫囉14F 04/22 15:49
推 : 不過她也是真心兇耶
SONY會想鎖也是有她的道理在
被鎖遊戲還是有點鬧就是了15F 04/22 15:50
SONY會想鎖也是有她的道理在
被鎖遊戲還是有點鬧就是了15F 04/22 15:50
→ : 搞不好SONY主機有條款說你不得嘴人吧18F 04/22 15:50
推 : 總要給買實體片的玩家好處啊 以後還是乖乖買實體片別貪小便宜買數位了19F 04/22 15:50
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其他家也都有 改機改到被BAN帳號你也不會去吵買的東西不27F 04/22 15:51
其他家也都有 改機改到被BAN帳號你也不會去吵買的東西不27F 04/22 15:51
推 : 以後還是買實體吧 買數位結果被管更多29F 04/22 15:52
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→ : 就是用了nigger和faggot所以被禁呀 XD34F 04/22 15:52
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推 : 就跟線上遊戲一樣 被鎖帳號裡面的東西也會一起鎖定42F 04/22 15:54
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推 : steam也沒這麼凶45F 04/22 15:55
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推 : 憑什麼花錢買的遊戲要被封鎖47F 04/22 15:55
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推 : 憑什麼花錢買的遊戲要被封鎖+1 欠告對吧50F 04/22 15:55
推 : 問題是官方也沒說明數位版跟實體版有這樣的風險啊 這51F 04/22 15:56
推 : sony justice warrior52F 04/22 15:56
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推 : Ban帳就算了 Ban掉遊戲好像有點太超過56F 04/22 15:56
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這樣還能算是公司自己大頭症嗎63F 04/22 15:56
這樣還能算是公司自己大頭症嗎63F 04/22 15:56
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→ : 色情跟罵髒話的可以離開67F 04/22 15:57
推 : Steam不會這樣68F 04/22 15:57
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推 : 不符合比例啊71F 04/22 15:57
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→ : 只能做這個人活該 直接跟真人罵，虛擬的就很隨便79F 04/22 15:58
推 : 禁言可以 不給玩花錢買的遊戲就太過了80F 04/22 15:58
→ : 大家都有寫禁止嘴其他玩家了...81F 04/22 15:58
→ : 大概是被罵的人申訴82F 04/22 15:58
→ : 這種白痴條約可以被法院接受才怪83F 04/22 15:58
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推 : 還是我大暴雪貼心 以前我玩SC2也是各種噴都沒事87F 04/22 15:59
→ : 違反可以中止提供該帳號服務 該服務包含數位遊戲88F 04/22 15:59
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→ : 友測試SONY的檢舉功能就試過了90F 04/22 15:59
→ : 因為他不珍惜帳號囉 qq喔91F 04/22 15:59
→ : 原文甚至不像瘋法自己引申的，問為啥買遊戲要被封92F 04/22 15:59
推 : 他罵人鎖掉那個遊戲不給玩就算了 鎖全部是哪招？93F 04/22 15:59
→ : 我之前玩SC2也是噴的很扯94F 04/22 15:59
推 : 這種定型化契約可不是天條 按了YES就不能抗議95F 04/22 15:59
→ : 而是質疑hate speech會被擴大解讀成言論管制96F 04/22 15:59
→ : 寫成鎖遊戲很奇怪啦 BAN帳比較好理解吧97F 04/22 15:59
推 : XD98F 04/22 16:00
推 : 索尼把玩家當人看，要教育他們99F 04/22 16:00
推 : 花錢還真的是大爺欸，免費的服務被ban都有機會打贏官司了，更何況這是付錢買使用權的，告到最後可能$ony退錢然後砍帳號吧…541F 04/23 02:03
推 : 爽544F 04/23 02:33
推 : some comments are pathetic..545F 04/23 13:34
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