看板 C_Chat作者 arrenwu (最是清楚哇她咩)標題 Re: [閒聊] 羊蹄山戰鬼開發員發文慶祝Kirk中槍身時間 Sat Sep 13 12:58:54 2025
※ 引述《jojoway (凝淵)》之銘言:
: 不過報導也有說
: 這位朋友承認,他無法確定羅賓遜最近政治觀點,因為他們在高中快結束時開始疏遠,
紐約時報有一篇關於 Tyler Robinson 的生平報導
Link:
https://nyti.ms/4pr3U52
下面的英文是報導原文,中文是我用ChatGPT翻譯之後進行校譯
In the conservative southern Utah city where Tyler Robinson grew up,
neighbors and classmates described him as a reserved, intelligent young man
raised in a Republican family who was deeply interested in video games, comic
books and current events.
在泰勒· 羅賓森(Tyler Robinsno)成長的猶他州南部保守城市裡
,鄰居和同學們形容他是一個內向、聰明的年輕人,
出身於共和黨家庭,對電子遊戲、漫畫和時事抱有濃厚興趣。
On Friday afternoon, people who knew Mr. Robinson struggled to reconcile
their memories of him and his seemingly ordinary suburban upbringing with his
notorious new image: the latest face of political violence, accused of
fatally shooting the conservative influencer Charlie Kirk on a Utah college
campus earlier this week in what the authorities have called a political
assassination.
週五下午,認識羅賓森先生的人們努力地在他過去看似普通的郊區成長經歷與
如今臭名昭著的新形象之間尋找平衡。
他成為最新一起政治暴力的代表人物,被指控在本週於猶他州一所大學校園內,
槍殺了保守派意見領袖查理‧柯克(Charlie Kirk),當局稱此為一宗「政治暗殺」。
“It’s really sad that someone with his mind put it to that sort of use,”
said Keaton Brooksby, 22, a former high school classmate of Mr. Robinson’s.
「真是令人難過,他這樣的頭腦竟然用在這種事情上,」
22 歲的基頓‧布魯克斯比(Keaton Brooksby),羅賓森的高中同學說。
Mr. Robinson had recently spoken with a family member about the fact that Mr.
Kirk was going to hold an event in Utah, according to a police affidavit, and
he and his relative discussed “why they didn’t like him and the viewpoints
he had.”
根據警方宣誓書的內容,羅賓森最近曾與一名家人談到柯克即將在猶他舉行活動,
他和親人還討論過「為什麼他們不喜歡柯克以及他的觀點」。
But as elements of the nation’s political left and right scrambled for
motives, the image that has initially emerged of Mr. Robinson is not at all
clear. Neither is his trajectory from a scholarship-winning high school
student to an apprentice electrician to a suspect.
雖然美國左右兩派都在急於尋找動機,羅賓森的形象卻仍顯得模糊不清。
他從一名獲得獎學金的優秀高中生,轉而成為電工學徒,
再到如今的嫌犯,這條軌跡難以理解。
Mr. Brooksby said that Mr. Robinson was generally considered a quiet pupil
when they were growing up in the conservative St. George area, but one day in
high school, the topic of the 2012 attacks on Americans in Benghazi, Libya,
came up during lunch. Few there knew exactly what had happened, but Mr.
Robinson was sure of himself.
布魯克斯比回憶說,羅賓森在他們成長的保守派聖喬治(St. George)地區,
通常被認為是一個安靜的學生。
但有一天,高中午餐時間談到 2012 年班加西(利比亞)針對美國人的襲擊事
件。當時幾乎沒人確切知道發生了什麼,但羅賓森卻自信滿滿。
“He gave us a whole spiel on what happened,” Mr. Brooksby said. “I just
remember thinking, he’s got a lot of information on this for someone who’s
14.”
「他跟我們講了一整套細節,」布魯克斯比說。
「我只記得心想,作為一個14歲的人來說,他知道的訊息可真多。」
Mr. Robinson is registered to vote in Utah, but he is not affiliated with a
political party and had never voted in an election, according to the
Washington County Clerk. His parents are registered Republicans, both with
active hunting licenses in a part of the country known for its outdoor life,
near Zion and Bryce Canyon national parks.
據華盛頓郡書記官稱,羅賓森已在猶他州登記為選民,
但沒有隸屬任何政黨,也從未參加過選舉投票。
他的父母都是已註冊的共和黨人,並持有狩獵執照,住在錫安(Zion)和
布萊斯峽谷(Bryce Canyon)國家公園附近的戶外生活區域。
Social media photos posted by his family over the years show Mr. Robinson and
his two younger brothers shooting and posing with guns.
多年來,他的家人在社交媒體上傳的照片顯示,
羅賓森和他的兩個弟弟經常持槍射擊並拿著槍擺姿勢。
Mr. Robinson surrendered to the police near his hometown on Thursday night
after an intense, 33-hour manhunt. A police officer wrote in an affidavit
filed in court that one of Mr. Robinson’s family members had described him
as growing “more political in recent years” and, during a recent dinner,
had mentioned Mr. Kirk and his upcoming event at the Utah campus.
經過 33 小時的緊張追捕後,羅賓森於週四晚上在家鄉附近向警方投案。
警方在法庭提交的宣誓書中指出,
他的一名家人曾形容他「近年來變得更具政治色彩」,
並在最近一次家晚餐時談到過柯克以及他在猶他州的活動。
Officials said they found, left with the gun, unfired ammunition that had
been engraved with jokes and slang from internet memes as well as the words,
“hey fascist! CATCH!”
官員表示,他留下的槍支旁有未使用的子彈,
上面刻有網路迷因中的玩笑和俚語,
以及「hey fascist! CATCH!」的字樣。
Adrian Rivera, 22, who had been in a high school woodworking class with him,
said that Mr. Robinson would often hang around the area designated for the
Junior R.O.T.C., or Junior Reserve Officers Training Corps, with other
students who were interested in the military program. It was unclear whether
Mr. Robinson had actually been a member of the corps.
22 歲的艾德里安‧里維拉(Adrian Rivera)曾與他一起上高中木工課,
他回憶說,羅賓森常常和其他對少年後備軍官訓練團(Junior R.O.T.C.)
感興趣的學生一起出現在該區域。
不過尚不清楚他是否真正參加過該軍事課程。
Mr. Rivera said that Mr. Robinson was a “massive Halo guy,” referring to
the popular science fiction game, and that he also liked to play Call of
Duty, and other shooter games.
里維拉說,羅賓森是個「超級Halo玩家」,
也喜歡玩Call of Duty以及其他射擊遊戲。
Sam New, 23, remembered a different video game, Minecraft, which Mr.
Robinson, an introvert from a conservative family, played obsessively.
23 歲的山姆‧紐(Sam New)則記得另一款遊戲─Minecraft讓
羅賓森這個來自保守家庭的內向孩子著迷不已
Mr. New said the news that Mr. Robinson had been arrested in Mr. Kirk’s
shooting sent shock waves through the friend group that knew from the game
club. Mr. New canceled his plan on Friday as he and Mr. Robinson’s circle of
high school friends took time to process Mr. Robinson’s arrest and check up
on each other.
紐說,當聽到羅賓森因槍擊柯克被捕的消息時,
他們那群遊戲社團的朋友震驚不已。
週五他取消了原定行程,與其他高中朋友一起消化這件事並互相關心。
“He seemed to have not really have talked to as many people,” Mr. New said.
“He lost contact with a lot of us.”
「他後來好像不太與人聯繫,」紐說。「和我們很多人都失去了聯絡。」
Mr. Robinson did appear to have excelled academically as a teenager. His
mother posted online a photo of him when he graduated from middle school with
a perfect 4.0 grade point average. In a Facebook post from August 2020,
celebrating the start of Mr. Robinson’s senior year at Pine View High School
in St. George, his mother proudly reported that he had been taking four
college-level classes as well as Advanced Placement calculus. He graduated
from Pine View in 2021.
羅賓森在青少年時期的確成績優異。
他的母親曾在網上貼出他國中畢業的照片,
當時他保持了滿分 4.0 的平均績點。
2020 年 8 月,她在臉書上慶祝他升上聖喬治的派恩景高中
(Pine View High School)高三的文章中,
驕傲地寫下兒子選修了四門大學課程和大學先修課程的微積分的事情。
後來他於 2021 年順利畢業。
“My brain hurts for him, but he’s so excited!” she wrote in the post.
「雖然我替他感到擔心,但他卻很興奮!」她當時寫道
Jaida Funk, 22, who went to elementary and middle school with Mr. Robinson,
said he was an excellent student — they were both in high honor roll
together. In fact, she said, he had the personality of a teacher’s pet,
always on time, respectful, hardworking, and smart.
22 歲的潔達‧范克(Jaida Funk)從小學到國中都與他同班,
她說羅賓森是優秀的學生——他們都經常進入榮譽榜。
她甚至說,他有點像「老師的寵兒」:總是準時、尊重人、勤奮又聰明。
“He’s the kind of kid that even if you are not friends, you’d ask him to
be in your group project,” she said. “He’s someone you’d expect to get
the award for perfect attendance.”
「他是那種即使你們不是朋友、也會想要他加入小組作業的孩子」
她這麼說。「他就是那種大家覺得會拿全勤獎的學生。」
She said he was very into computers. He was not in the popular crowd but
people liked him.
她表示,他對電腦非常感興趣,
雖然不算是處於社交中的上位種性圈子,但大家都喜歡他。
“The way he carries himself and speaks to others. I thought he’d be a
C.E.O. or a businessman. He had good leadership qualities.”
「看他的氣質和與人交談的方式,我以為他將來會成為 CEO 或商人。
他具備很好的領導質。」
In 2021, Mr. Robinson’s mother posted a video of her son reading a letter in
which he said he had received a presidential scholarship to Utah State
University worth $32,000. But a university spokeswoman said that Mr. Robinson
only attended the university for one semester in 2021, as a pre-engineering
major. The school is roughly two hours away from Utah Valley University,
where the shooting took place.
2021 年,羅賓森的母親還發布過一段影片,
顯示他讀出一封信,容是他獲得了猶他州立大學(Utah State University)
總額 3.2 萬美元的總統獎學金。
不過,該校發言人表示,他僅在 2021 年就讀了一個學期,主修工程預科。
該校距離槍擊案發生地的猶他谷大學約兩小時車程。
At the time of the shooting, Mr. Robinson appears to have been living with at
least one roommate in an apartment complex in St. George, about a 10-minute
drive from his family’s home in the adjoining town of Washington, Utah. The
police said that they had interviewed a roommate of Mr. Robinson’s, who
showed them messages from after the shooting in which Mr. Robinson described
leaving a rifle somewhere and changing his clothes.
案發時,羅賓森似乎與至少一名室友同住在聖喬治的一處公寓,
距離父母位於華盛頓鎮的家約 10 分鐘車程。
警方表示,他的一名室友向他們展示了槍擊後羅賓森發出的訊息,
內容提到他把步槍留在某處,並更換了衣服。
Mr. Robinson had been a third-year student in an electrical apprentice
program at Dixie Technical College in St. George, the school said in a
statement.
根據學校聲明,羅賓森當時是聖喬治迪克西技術學院(Dixie Technical College)
電工學徒課程的三年級學生。
Several of Mr. Robinson’s neighbors at the apartment complex where he had
recently lived described him as withdrawn, saying that they rarely saw him,
apart from when he was walking to and from a gray Dodge Challenger he kept in
the parking lot.
在他最近居住的公寓區,幾位鄰居形容他十分孤僻,
除了看到他出入停在停車場的一輛灰色 Dodge Challenger 外,很少見到他。
“He’d never talk to anybody,” said Josh Kemp, 18, who lived across from
Mr. Robinson’s apartment. “He’d always blast music with his roommate.”
「他從來不跟人說話。」住在羅賓森的對門、18歲的喬許· 肯普(Josh Kemp)說,
「他只會和室友一起放很大聲的音樂。」
Oliver Holt, an 11-year-old who lives a few doors down from Mr. Robinson’s
apartment, said he was going door-to-door in the complex last week, asking
neighbors whether he could do any odd jobs to help him save up for a new
phone, when he encountered Mr. Robinson. Oliver, who spoke to The New York
Times with his mother’s approval, said he was put off by Mr. Robinson’s
behavior, and said he kept glancing back into his apartment.
11 歲的奧利弗‧霍特(Oliver Holt)住在幾戶之外。
他回憶說,上週自己逐門詢問鄰居能否讓自己幫忙做些事情來賺錢買新手機時,
遇到了羅賓森。
奧利弗(在母親同意下接受《紐約時報》採訪)說,
羅賓森的舉止讓他感到不安,因為他不停回頭看自己的公寓。
“He was acting pretty strange,” Oliver said. “He was acting kind of
nervous and scared.”
「他舉止很奇怪,」奧利弗說。「看起來緊張又害怕。」
Mr. Brooksby, who knew Mr. Robinson in high school, said the last time he saw
Mr. Robinson was when they bumped into each other at a Walmart. Mr. Robinson
seemed to have grown even shyer, appearing to not want to catch up.
高中就認識羅賓森的布魯克斯比說,
他最後一次見到羅賓森是在沃爾瑪巧遇時,
當時羅賓森看起來更加羞怯,且似乎並不想聊近況。
單看這報導的內容,很像普通的鄉民
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Re: [閒聊] 羊蹄山戰鬼開發員發文慶祝Kirk中槍身
09-13 12:58 arrenwu
→ eva05s: 這文字方向...感覺要開始洗孤僻偏激打槍遊戲宅了....4F 09/13 13:01
推 lovegensokyo: 已經可以預見有人會喊出「這個小孩平常都很乖,一定是電動帶壞他」
至少現在不只索尼受害,微軟也有份(?6F 09/13 13:02
推 Tsozuo: 遊戲嘛 老扛寶嗎了9F 09/13 13:03
我覺得比較關鍵的應該是「領了獎學金去猶他州立大學卻只讀了一學期」。
這中間不知道發生了什麼事情。
推 mi324: 又是一個被電玩殘害的年輕人,ACG真是害人不淺11F 09/13 13:03
推 utqpwotu: 看來又是「都是ACG造成」的老招了13F 09/13 13:05
推 jl50491: 感覺就是看不起父母的年輕人14F 09/13 13:05
推 Wardyal: 會讀書 愛玩遊戲 XD16F 09/13 13:06
推 uranus013: Halo CoD 加上麥快 天啊 這傢伙根本是活生生從地獄走出來的惡魔(反串要17F 09/13 13:06
推 sam09: 感覺很像本版某些常在4-11邊緣試探的板友20F 09/13 13:08
推 SinPerson: 在這些資訊出來前,不也一堆人要他扛左派的身分嗎21F 09/13 13:08
→ linceass: 看不出來這跟ACG有個屁關係...22F 09/13 13:08
推 mymind: 美國的大學是什麼轉化裝置嗎?23F 09/13 13:08
推 Jiajun0724: 挖 這裡大家罵得挺爽 結果是個電玩仔 ACG又要背鍋囉25F 09/13 13:09
也別這麼早下結論啦XD
※ 編輯: arrenwu (98.45.195.96 美國), 09/13/2025 13:09:23
推 WLR: 電玩就是美國的耶穌基督,扛了吧26F 09/13 13:09
推 dnek: 左右要大和解了,都是電玩的錯27F 09/13 13:09
推 gargoyles: 故事就免了 他喜歡打鎗game對吧28F 09/13 13:09
→ arrenwu: 他的猶他州立大學短暫歷程可能滿重要的。畢竟能領獎學金29F 09/13 13:10
→ arrenwu: 的學生最少要在平均以上31F 09/13 13:10
推 WLR: 守護者的世界和平也是曼哈頓博士扛了,放在現實也是如此32F 09/13 13:10
→ blackone979: 到目前為止都只有提到他討厭科克 但是都沒提到他討厭科克的理由 我覺得這才是關鍵33F 09/13 13:11
推 pauljet: 只有我想到大學郵件炸彈客嗎?天才 上了大學突然轉向左然後就製造大量包含環保主義的炸彈 造成多人死傷35F 09/13 13:11
推 Snomuku: 那位川普的那位身邊有被查訪這麼多人嗎
暗殺37F 09/13 13:12
推 guogu: 抓到了 果然電動會帶壞小孩39F 09/13 13:12
→ linceass: 影響他的人事時地物都不講 只會連結ACG 沒有邏輯40F 09/13 13:12
→ pauljet: 可是環保主義從來不背鍋41F 09/13 13:12
推 lovegensokyo: 感覺是人生前半過的順遂,成績好人討喜,父母同學都愛他,直到上了大學不知道遇到什麼事受到打擊,輟學開始越來越孤僻,然後走入極端42F 09/13 13:13
推 dnek: 孤僻、內向、安靜,喜愛電腦,要不要這麼像我(45F 09/13 13:13
推 pauljet: 我 還能加上大學領獎學金QQ46F 09/13 13:14
→ ghostxx: 左右媒體都可以冷靜往退路操作風向了,ACG上十字架吧47F 09/13 13:15
推 bomda: 電玩準備背鍋52F 09/13 13:19
→ iam0718: 還太早 一個所謂太宅的人還會去關注kirk 但ACG要死刑是肯定的 XD53F 09/13 13:19
→ trashBF: 打電玩宅孤僻不代表會想在別人身上開洞啊55F 09/13 13:19
→ blackone979: 別說笑了好嗎 還在作夢中國對ACG態度有比美國好?56F 09/13 13:20
推 windowsill: 猶他州立大學普遍的學生政治傾向如何?這也許是能參考的點57F 09/13 13:21
這裡有個猶他州立大學的相關調查
https://www.niche.com/colleges/utah-state-university/students/
How would you describe your personal political beliefs?
https://i.imgur.com/vfci8Rs.jpg
在 自由、中間、保守 的選擇下,
自認是保守陣營的學生明顯的比較多
不知道是不是跟人起衝突之類的
推 Goodanswer: 一邊擺明要你死,一邊不踩線就沒事,哪邊比較好?60F 09/13 13:21
→ windowsill: 而且如果真的是電玩宅 查理有什麼議題是會讓阿宅不爽的嗎62F 09/13 13:21
推 iam0718: 你那個進行式也很有趣 對岸那堆ACG都假的就是了65F 09/13 13:23
推 lovegensokyo: 其實才一學期,不覺得校內風氣能影響到什麼,導致他退學的事,應該才是關鍵66F 09/13 13:23
推 JaccWu: 所以就真的要小心 貼標籤被塞去代表某族群厚69F 09/13 13:25
※ 編輯: arrenwu (98.45.195.96 美國), 09/13/2025 13:25:56
→ JaccWu: 如果被塞去代表遊戲族群70F 09/13 13:25
推 Goodanswer: 說進行式的就被4-11洗腦太深啊,殊不知洗腦的那方才是真正瞧不起ACG的71F 09/13 13:25
→ JaccWu: 那聊什麼左派右派的遊戲族群…73F 09/13 13:26
推 tetsu327: 還是因為能輕易買槍 怎麼能怪電玩 這邊宅宅有亂殺人嗎74F 09/13 13:28
→ windowsill: 看起來確實保守居多 那就要考慮查理到底是哪裡惹怒他 或者 最壞的情形就是 他只是隨機針對名人犯案(75F 09/13 13:28
推 ice76824: 對電子遊戲、漫畫和時事抱有濃厚興趣。 << 都是ACG的錯78F 09/13 13:28
推 DendiQ: 我知道了,單身孤僻電玩宅,國安危機!!79F 09/13 13:28
推 Snomuku: 宅宅也會關心政治啊80F 09/13 13:28
推 lovegensokyo: MAGA內派系互看不爽的一堆,目前被推測的groyper,就是一群覺得CK是假右派的極右派,兩邊衝突的歷史甚至在英文維基有一整欄介紹。只能說真的不要急著貼標籤,人心比想像中複雜多了81F 09/13 13:29
推 ldsdodo: 聰明的怪物,依他的本事,弄一把遠距槍來暗殺也不會是多困難的事85F 09/13 13:30
→ arrenwu: 我看完這報導,心裡覺得他這歷程好像普通的西洽板友XD87F 09/13 13:31
→ dandes0227: 好的 責任歸屬都是acg害的 各位左右派人士毋須爭執88F 09/13 13:32
推 Snomuku: 過去順遂受到打擊內向孤僻喜歡電玩關心政治單身宅男89F 09/13 13:32
推 mainsa: 就是上大學之後迷上遊戲被二一的那種人啊 我大學的時候每年也遇過幾個這種的 高中家裡管死死 跑到南部唸書沒人管整個爛掉的 我大四時候的一年級直屬學弟最扯 跟我同年結果才剛大一原來是前一間學校被雙二一又考來成大然後我畢業的時候他又被雙二一惹 反正到時候就又推給電玩吧90F 09/13 13:32
→ iam0718: 應該最後就是ACG族群最受傷無誤 XD95F 09/13 13:34
→ iam0718: 有看過大學生荒廢手遊家人來群組找人 我很訝異家人怎知道97F 09/13 13:35
推 SinPerson: 大學的議題就是可以用來證實科克的主張沒錯,左派入侵校園導致這事發生,現在就是看遊戲玩家的身分要跟哪個標籤組合,跟左派組合,執政黨還能順勢管制遊戲98F 09/13 13:35
推 b160160: 這個小孩很乖,一定是呼吸喝水帶壞他的537F 09/13 16:04
→ mealoop: 感覺就是個屁孩 想開槍蹦掉人很久了 剛好有個名人來就蹦惹538F 09/13 16:15
推 paul5566: 感謝翻譯,為何這文會出現在西洽阿XD540F 09/13 16:25
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