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作者 pneumo (超☆冒險蓋)
標題 [外絮] 勇士準備如何把KD, SC, AI跟其他人簽下來
時間 Sat Jun 17 16:01:39 2017


來源: The Mercury News
網址: http://tinyurl.com/yba9oecf
How the Warriors will fit Durant, Curry, Iguodala and others into their expanding 2017 payroll
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The Warriors will have some tough decisions to make in trying to retain many of their impending free agents, but there are reasons to believe they wil ...

 

Kawakami: How the Warriors are set to re-sign Durant, Curry, Iguodala and
others
勇士準備如何把KD,SC,AI跟其他人簽下來

前面有一大段省略,直接講重點

The Warriors could feasibly exceed the $127M apron — and pay more luxury tax
— if they have to, but if they go over the apron this July, the Warriors
would have a strong desire not to repeat that next July.
勇士的薪資總額很容易就超過一億兩千七百萬的上限。如果他們今年超過的話,就得繳
豪華稅;不過他們明年應該不會願意再因為超過薪資上限而繳稅。

The Warriors’ payroll was about $102M this past season, FYI.
去年勇士的薪資總額是一億零兩百萬。

Bob Myers & Co. are prepared. They’ve been prepared for this ever since
Curry, Iguodala, Draymond Green and Klay Thompson met with Durant in The
Hamptons last year, because there was no way they were all going through all
of that just for a one-year fling.
勇士制服組已經準備好了。去年當他們與SC,AI,KT,一起跟KD碰面的時候,就已經想
好他們不是為了一年的合約在忙。

That does not mean everything is set in stone. That does not mean everything
will go exactly as Myers, Joe Lacob and everybody else hoped and planned.
不過那不代表一切都已成定局;不代表都會如制服組跟勇士老板Lacob的願。

But they have a financial framework for this, they just fulfilled every
expectation for this season on the basketball court, Durant, Curry and
everybody else are obviously ready to come back for several more title
attempts, and it’s pretty easy to see how this will likely work.
但是他們的財經計畫已經準備好了,他們今年把KD,SC跟其他人組成一個團隊,拿到了
冠軍,而且大家都想回來再拿幾個冠軍戒指,所以讓勇士制服組的計畫看起來應該可以
成功。


Let’s go step by step…
我們一步一步看。

1. Durant will opt-out of his current deal, and become a free agent again.
This was always the plan. He only signed the one-plus-one (one year at the
max plus a player-option) as insurance against a possible major injury this
season, so he’d have that extra year just in case he wanted it.
He doesn’t need it. He’ll opt-out, as a prelude to…
1. KD會選擇跳出他的合約,成為自由球員。
KD只簽了一個1+1的合約 (一年最高薪資+球員選擇權),保障KD若是今年受傷的狀況。
但是他今年健康無虞。所以他一定會跳出合約,接下來...

2.  Durant will agree to another one-plus-one deal with the Warriors, similar
to the deal he signed last July, except he likely will take just a 20% raise
to $31.8M, which the Warriors can give him without fitting him into cap space.
2. KD會再簽個一加一的合約(跟去年一樣),而且願意佛心價只漲薪20%,變成一年三千
一百八十萬鎂。那個不會算在勇士的薪資總額。

If Durant insists on making absolute max (about $35.5M to start), which he is
wholly worth, the Warriors would have to fit him into cap-space again because
they do not have his Full Bird Rights, and to do that they would have to
renounce both Iguodala and Livingston, and lose their Bird Rights to both,
and that would probably mean losing both.
但如果KD堅持要拿頂薪(三千五百五十萬鎂),勇士因為沒有KD的鳥權,所以就得把KD的薪 
水包括在薪資總額裡;這樣勇士可能就沒辦法簽下AI跟Livingston。

But Durant has given every indication that he will take the 20% raise in
order to give the Warriors the flexibility to pay Iguodala and Livingston
whatever salary necessary above and beyond the cap number.
但是KD已經表明他只會佛心價漲20%,讓勇士制服組有空間可以簽下AI跟Livingston。

By doing this new 1 + 1, Durant would be eligible to receive a “super-max”
 deal of about 4 years, $160M in July 2018 when the Warriors would have his
Early Bird Rights.
KD若簽下這個新的一加一的合約,2018年勇士就會有KD的早鳥權,而KD就可以有一個超
大肥約: 四年一億六千萬。

Which, again, is what is extremely likely to happen.
這也是極有可能發生的。

3. Curry will agree to a “super-max” extension, five years worth about
$205M, but it will not be announced or signed until after all the other deals
are done.
3. SC將會同意簽一個五年兩億零五百萬鎂超大肥約,但這個會等到其他球員的約都簽好   
了才公布。

As I’ve noted many times before, there’s really no strategic reason for
Curry to take a dollar less than the super-max, especially because he has
been so vastly underpaid almost from the moment he signed that four-year,
$44M deal in 2013.
沒有理由SC不值得這份超級大約,他2013年簽的四年四千四百萬鎂實在太低了。

Curry has earned every dollar possible — because he’s a Bird Rights player,
the only thing taking less would affect is Lacob and Guber’s profit level,
and Curry has already contributed more than enough to that.
因為SC有鳥權,拿的多少只會影響到勇士老闆的荷包。

And Lacob told me Monday that the Warriors would do “whatever it takes” to
re-sign Curry.
而且Lacob前幾天也說了,一定會把SC留下來。

There’s your super-max deal.
所以SC的超大肥約GET!

So, presuming Curry and Durant agree to extensions at those starting numbers,
the Warriors would have about $105M committed to seven players + Jason
Thompson’s stretched salary next season.
所以,勇士薪資總額的一億零五百萬鎂包含了以下七個球員跟Jason Thompson:
Curry+Durant+Draymond+Klay+Kevon Looney+Damian Jones+McCaw

And they still have two more annual $945k charges after using the “stretch
provision” to release Jason Thompson last season.
另外勇士得為Jason Thompson的延伸合約多花94.5萬鎂。

The Warriors would be about $22M short of the apron and would still have
Iguodala and Livingston’s potential contracts and many other roster spots to
fill, including somebody to start at center.
所以勇士只剩兩千兩百萬買AI,Livingston,中鋒跟其他輪值球員。

4. Iguodala will likely sign a multi-year extension with the Warriors worth
somewhere between $8M to $12M per year.
4. AI會簽一個多年期的約,會在每年八百到一千兩百萬鎂之間。

Obviously, Iguodala remains an immensely valuable player for the Warriors,
especially when their main rivals feature LeBron James — go to Game 5 of the
Finals for a reminder — and it’s possible Iguodala could get a larger offer
from another team.
AI重要性無庸置疑,看他的Game 5就知道了,他去別的球隊一定可以拿比這個高的多。

But he loves playing for the Warriors, loves the Silicon Valley connection,
loves winning titles (which help out his potential Hall of Fame case),
understands that he is extending his career by playing with so many stars,
and if the Warriors step up with the number of years, this seems like a
relative slam-dunk.
但是AI喜歡在勇士打球,喜歡他目前在加州的地緣,喜歡拿冠軍,所以若是跟勇士簽個多
年合約似乎是更好的主意。

Back in 2013, Iguodala signed for four years, $48M — in a time of a much
smaller cap number, but also when he was 28, not 32, and if you adjust for
all the factors, getting just a little less of an annual salary in exchange
for multi-year stability seems about where this is going to land for Iguodala.
2013年AI簽的是四年四千八百萬鎂,那時他28歲。所以,過了四年,拿少一點,但是是個
多年約似乎對AI來說是個更好的選擇。

Iguodala has already indicated that his negotiation is almost already done
and that he will re-sign with the Warriors, though I’m sure there are still
deal points to be finalized.
AI很早就說他會跟勇士續約,而且很早就在協調。

Months ago a source indicated to me that the only real issue to be worked out
was the number of guaranteed years.
消息來源指出只是卡在年數的問題。

5. Livingston will be a much more open-ended situation and it’s a coin-flip
whether he stays with the Warriors.
5. Livingston就很難說惹。

Notably, Livingston has given every indication that he’d prefer to stay with
the Warriors, and the Warriors clearly would love to bring him back, but both
sides understand that there are many factors in play here.
Livingston也表明想留下來,勇士也想要他留下來,但是中間還有很多因素無法排除。

Livingston, 31, has never made huge money, has been through catastrophic
injury, plays a valuable position, and if he gets a large multi-year offer, it
’s probable that the Warriors won’t match it. Then it’ll be Livingston’s
call, and he deserves the right to make as much money as possible.
Livingston也表明想留下來,勇士也想要他留下來,但是中間還有很多因素無法排除。
Livington今年31歲了,沒拿過大約,有過大傷,這幾年打得很好,所以他想要拿個多年
約也是正常,但是勇士應該不會給。所以,這就會是Livingston自己的決定,要走還是要
留。


But there is some squeeze for Livingston here, coupled with Iguodala’s
situation; let’s say Iguodala lands at $10M next season — that brings the
Warriors within only $12M of the apron, with a lot of other roster spots to
fill.
假設AI只拿一年一千萬鎂,勇士將會只剩一千兩百萬鎂來簽其他球員。

If I had to guess, I’d say the Warriors would hope Livingston comes in at
around $6-7M per, and would not require longer than a two-year deal.
所以勇士很有可能給Livingston一年六到七百萬鎂,不會多過兩年約。

6. After Durant, Curry, Iguodala and Livingston, I don’t think the Warriors
will be interested in offering anything much over the minimum to any other
free agents— and anything over the minimum would strictly be with their
exceptions (tax-payer mid-level being the biggest, at about $5M per to start).
6. 在簽完KD,SC,AI跟Livingston後,勇士大概只會給市場上的自由球員底薪。

That would apply to the negotiations for Zaza Pachulia, David West, JaVale

McGee, Ian Clark and James Michael McAdoo and even Matt Barnes if the
Warriors are so inclined.
所以喳喳,大衛西,MyBoy,Ian Clark,麥卡杜,MB大概就是底薪價。

And the Warriors’ payroll isn’t going to go much above $127M this July —
 there are certainly ways their payroll might explode again in 2019 (when
Thompson’s deal is up) or 2020 (when Draymond’s deal is up)…
勇士今年的薪資總額大概不會超過一億兩千七百萬鎂太多;到了2019(KT合約到期)或
2020(嘴綠合約到期)就恐怖惹。

But also, those two players will no longer be in their 20s when that happens,
and that’s a long ways from now, anyway.
不過這兩個球員到時候就不是二字頭的年輕球員,到時候再來傷腦筋吧。

For now, the Warriors aren’t going to be anywhere near $140M-150M this July
or probably even next July, because they’ve got their framework, it’s built
around five guys, and everybody else is going to have to fill in around that…
 or head elsewhere and the Warriors will find other players to fill in,
anyway.
所以勇士今年或明年薪資總額大概會落在一億四千到一億五千萬鎂之間,這兩年就是恐
怖五小配上其他底薪球員。

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勇士制服組表示: 底薪拿冠軍,歡迎報名。

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johnwu: 躍升最大團?1F 06/17 16:02
Shufflin: 正名:小AI2F 06/17 16:02
richard1003: 所以重點就是Zaza,McGee,Clark不願意拿底薪的話3F 06/17 16:03
PeterHenson: 李文感覺留不住了4F 06/17 16:03
richard1003: 留不下來,前面兩個沒留確實會影響戰力5F 06/17 16:04
kizo555: 李文可以去爛隊打先發   錢拿多一點6F 06/17 16:04
a222317168: 勇士目標應該是輪替7人留下吧 其他的再用年輕的來7F 06/17 16:07
yw1002: 明年要是沒拿到冠軍會很幹吧9F 06/17 16:07
alger4713: 大家來商量薪資怎麼分配又不會組團組的太難看10F 06/17 16:09
liusim: 應該也要看補誰 冠軍隊招人還是有一些優勢11F 06/17 16:09
QoGIVoQ: 是說Mcgee不只有底薪能拿吧 至少也能500~70012F 06/17 16:09
LoveDonGin: 李文沒很重要吧覺得13F 06/17 16:09
liusim: 尤其勇士的體系 融入就加分 像myboy14F 06/17 16:10
brian199524: 各種降薪組團 真的難看15F 06/17 16:10
samsam80821: 基本上比較大部分的想法 是只要有隊伍開給李文一千16F 06/17 16:11
ilanese: 自由市場會有很多想拿冠軍戒的老將以底薪加入的。17F 06/17 16:11
samsam80821: 萬以上的合約 勇士就會讓他走了 畢竟他生涯沒拿過大約 讓他去追逐高薪是比較符合的想法
拿其它人其實都沒什麼損失 KD只是沒開頂約而已18F 06/17 16:11
smtp: 基石就是Curry+KD, 其他要留就留, 不留可以再找...21F 06/17 16:12
ltameion: 如果隊上有LBJ就可以要求主將們大降薪抱成一團了22F 06/17 16:13
hyperfrog: 三年拿兩冠了,勇士老闆賺到翻過去是要幹什麼XD23F 06/17 16:13
samsam80821: 不然他還是漲薪 而且還可因此滿足明年鳥權24F 06/17 16:13
freshbox7: 李文的上場時間無法承受先發...
李文即便代替咖哩打先發時間也多在20分左右25F 06/17 16:13
IBIZA: 翻譯不太對27F 06/17 16:14
liusim: 說小ai降薪也怪 因為就是想要坐在甲骨文的第一排28F 06/17 16:14
hyperfrog: 勇士一直很保護李文的上場時間,其他球隊可能也要考慮這點29F 06/17 16:14
samsam80821: 然後小AI的狀況是特例 大家都已經戲稱他的主業在矽31F 06/17 16:14
liusim: 抱腿奪冠好像也不是他的第一目標@@32F 06/17 16:14
RuleAllWorld: lbj:play one33F 06/17 16:14
IBIZA: "without fitting him into cap space"34F 06/17 16:15
samsam80821: 谷了 他沒理由會想離開這邊 如果為了追求大約而離開35F 06/17 16:15
IBIZA: 這句不是說不用計入總額, 是不用使用空間36F 06/17 16:15
jacky3838: 李文在Curry狀況不好的情況下很有用耶= =37F 06/17 16:15
RIFF: NIKE可以接受 KD薪水比CURRY薪水低嗎?38F 06/17 16:15
samsam80821: 勇士 對他才是麻煩 所以合約只要不要太扯都會簽的39F 06/17 16:15
hyperfrog: 勇士球員會去問AI投資跟置產的問題,他在這一塊的確有口碑40F 06/17 16:15
liusim: 文章有說1+1 明年一樣有機會拿大約42F 06/17 16:16
IBIZA: 下一段的cap space翻譯有一樣的問題43F 06/17 16:16
force5566: 翻譯:姆斯姆斯,夜裡哭哭44F 06/17 16:16
MK12: 勇士老闆也是創投的 小AI都會請教他45F 06/17 16:16
yw1002: 現在的勇士史上最強 兄弟+KD 我看就算馬龍自己花錢他也願意46F 06/17 16:16
gold97972000: 李文超級穩!!48F 06/17 16:17
samsam80821: 李文只要有人開超過一千 勇士應該就會祝福他了49F 06/17 16:17
MVPkobe: 20%很佛心?50F 06/17 16:17
MK12: 重點還是KD拿多少 Curry已經前四年少拿太多51F 06/17 16:17
IBIZA: 這篇的數字計算基本上看我這篇就可以了 #1PFxnG3b52F 06/17 16:18
MK12: Curry這次約肯定要補償過去的低價53F 06/17 16:18
oklagg: 4/365x454F 06/17 16:18
IBIZA: KD已經說會低拿了 應該就是3180萬55F 06/17 16:18
samsam80821: Curry不是直接開頂給他嗎
KD就是微調道318056F 06/17 16:18
IBIZA: 直接看這篇的數字 #1PFxnG3b  應該很清楚58F 06/17 16:19
aegis43210: 很佛心,KD是任何球隊都想要的球星59F 06/17 16:19
zxc787848: 李文很重要吧 那個二樓跳投有時候得分荒很好用60F 06/17 16:19
FB5566: Liv值得一張好合約...61F 06/17 16:20
IBIZA: KD不會損失太多 反正只有一年
以整個生涯看的話 搞不好根本沒損失62F 06/17 16:20
zxc787848: 但是如果有更大約還是祝福啊 每個人都有家要養64F 06/17 16:20
kyo06: My boy不是幾乎快沒球打了,也是勇士知道怎麼用他吧65F 06/17 16:21
parkblack: SC讓我想了一下這是誰66F 06/17 16:21
samsam80821: 李文照要性還是有 不過在KD進來之後有被稀釋掉67F 06/17 16:21
kyo06: 李文很重要,但他走了勇士還是有籌碼找人來補68F 06/17 16:21
samsam80821: 也就是攻勢打不開的那種穩定錯位單打69F 06/17 16:22
IBIZA: 李文不續約的話  KD降薪就變得很沒有意義70F 06/17 16:22
kyo06: 並沒有到非留他不可的程度,看緣分了吧XD71F 06/17 16:22
vgil: 拿個兩三冠之後拆夥也夠本了  不可能每隊都跟馬刺一樣年年有衝冠實力72F 06/17 16:22
kyo06: 理論上小AI如果簽的不高,應該還是有機會留下他74F 06/17 16:22
zxc787848: 這7人打五小輪流換根本爽75F 06/17 16:23
hyperfrog: McGee如果去年勇士沒簽他,他本來要去CBA打球76F 06/17 16:23
ppo7741: 我反而是覺得Ian應該是會走了,他越打越好77F 06/17 16:23
RuleAllWorld: 所以Curry降不降沒關係,一定頂薪78F 06/17 16:23
samsam80821: 應該會看別隊開給李文多少來決定 如果真的跟不下也79F 06/17 16:23
zxc787848: 今年有圓夢老將嗎? 除了卡特80F 06/17 16:24
samsam80821: 只能祝福他 Ian我是覺得一定走81F 06/17 16:24
kyo06: 他降了沒意義吧,所以當然就給足,他應得的82F 06/17 16:24
hyperfrog: 我喜歡Clark,可是他如果離開勇士戰術體系不太看好83F 06/17 16:24
FB5566: 我還是蠻佩服liv韌帶斷3條還回的來...84F 06/17 16:24
kyo06: 反正主要先發那幾個在,就不用擔心補不到人啦
冠軍的號召加上整個團隊氣氛和戰術走向,搶著來吧85F 06/17 16:25
dogville: 這篇是不是搞錯了 KD用鳥權=全部人用鳥權87F 06/17 16:25
kyo06: my boy都能打成這樣了,教練團用人也不用擔心吧88F 06/17 16:26
zxc787848: 所以一切還是要等別人開多少給李文 再決定根部跟囉89F 06/17 16:26
dogville: AI和Liv都只有勇士願意給多少錢 而沒有給不了的問題90F 06/17 16:26
swayoung: 自由市場現在有什麼圓夢老將待機中的?91F 06/17 16:27
gadoma: 其他球隊想玩的話,花點錢也要把紮麥西三人搶走,好歹讓勇士重新磨合92F 06/17 16:27
dogville: 全部人用鳥權 勇士還有一個八百多萬的中產94F 06/17 16:27
zxc787848: 最近就卡特吧 還有誰幫補充95F 06/17 16:27
dogville: 大家真的替勇士擔心太多了 下季他們只會更強96F 06/17 16:27
Tommy92C: VC吧都40歲了97F 06/17 16:27
andrewyllee: 雖然希望LIV留 但也希望他多賺點養老98F 06/17 16:28
knight714: my boy和liv其實都滿重要的,如果走的話很難補上缺口吧99F 06/17 16:29
king12272: 兩年之後的事情兩年之後再說吧 目前看來 全員留隊明年再補底薪老將機率很高
如果不是勇士 李文已經退役了xd 你說現在有那隻球隊會願意給他長合約220F 06/17 17:04
HsiangFly: 李文的替代性比較高 養個新秀吧224F 06/17 17:05
jkduke: VC KK 快去吧 去圓夢阿 射射3分即可225F 06/17 17:05
eirose: 勇士老闆如果只是那種Win now一年就解散的,那怎可能226F 06/17 17:05

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