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原文中有提到O'neal離開魔術
因年代久遠
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When Shaq was drafted first overall, the Magic had just completed their third
season in franchise history. As is the case with many franchises just
starting out, wins were hard to come by. In three seasons, Orlando finished
18-64, 31-51, and 21-61.
O'neal加入魔術時 魔術隊才剛剛加入聯盟三年 且起步維艱
這三年戰績分別為18-64 31-51 21-61
However, O’Neal was about to change that in a hurry.
Once the former LSU Tiger joined the team, the Magic finished 41-41. They
then won 50 or more games in each of the next three seasons as Shaq and
fellow All-Star Penny Hardaway led them to an NBA Finals appearance in
1994-95 and the Eastern Conference Finals the following year. In 1996, with
Penny already locked up on a nine-year, $72 million deal, it was time to
re-sign the four-time All-Star and former scoring champion: O’Neal.
但O'neal的加入很快就改變了球隊
第一年41-41 接下來三年都拿下超過50勝
1994-95在O'neal和Penny的合作下還打進總冠
1996年 Penny已經拿到了9年7200萬的合約
接下來就輪到跟O'neal簽約
O’Neal, who finished his four-year, $17.4 million rookie deal, was offered
$54 million dollars over four years. It was an embarrassing offer, and one
that looked even worse when you consider both the Miami Heat’s Alonzo
Mourning and Washington Bullets‘ Juwan Howard earned seven-year, $105
million contracts that same offseason.
O'neal第一份合約為四年1740萬
這次魔術隊開出了四年5400萬 這是個侮辱人的數字
尤其在看過熱火的Alonzo Mourning和子彈隊的Juwan Howard的7年1億500萬合約後
讓這數字看起來更糟了
The official NBA free-agency period opened up on July 9, 1996. Right off the
bat, Lakers general manager Jerry West offered O’Neal a seven-year, $95.5
million contract. Concerned about losing their homegrown player to a big
market, the Magic responded with a $100 million offer. Soon after, team owner
Rich DeVos upped the ante, offering O’Neal a seven-year, $115 million
contract to stay in Florida.
湖人隊總管Jerry West提供O'neal 7年9550萬的合約
這時擔心失去O'neal的魔術才趕緊回應願意提供7年1億
接著球隊老闆Rich Devos再加碼到7年1億1500萬
On July 16, one week after the start of free agency, the Orlando Sentinel put
out a poll question on the front page of the newspaper: “Is Shaquille O’
Neal worth $115 million over seven seasons?” Word of DeVos’ offer got to
the paper, which they in turn transformed into a question where readers would
call one number to vote yes, one number to vote no.
1月16日 the Orlando Sentinel在頭版發起了一個問卷調查:
O'neal 值得給他7年1億1500萬嗎?
讓讀者可以選擇是或不是
In the end, 5,111 readers made a call to place their votes. And 91.3 percent
said no, O’Neal was not worth $115 million over the next seven years.
結果5111位讀者中 91.3%的人說 不值得給O'neal這麼多
The results infuriated readers who wanted Shaq to stay with the Magic. It
infuriated Orlando’s front office, as well as its players. Worst of all, it
disappointed O’Neal.
這結果惹怒了希望O'neal留下的讀者 也惹怒了魔術隊的球員 當然 還有O'neal本人
“It stung a lot,” [O’Neal] said years later. “A lot. I wouldn’t say it
hurt me, but I don’t like being underappreciated.”
O'neal說:這刺痛了我 我不會說我受傷了 但我不喜歡不受尊重與被低估的感覺
Once the newspaper poll came out, many players around the league came to the
defense of O’Neal. One such player was Charles Barkley, who at the time was
Shaq’s Olympic teammate for the 1996 Summer Games in Atlanta, Georgia.
“They’re going to be sorry this time tomorrow, because they’re going to be
idiots,” said Barkley to the Los Angeles Times. “They are going to miss him.
”
投票結果出爐後 許多球員站出來支持O'neal 老巴是其中一個
他和O'neal是1996年夢幻三隊的隊友
他說:"他們以後會後悔的 一群白癡 他們將會失去他"
Dennis Scott was another player who voiced his opinion. Scott, a teammate of O
’Neal’s for all four years in Orlando, called Magic general manager John
Gabriel to give him a piece of his mind.
Dennis Scott是另一個發聲的球員 他是O'neal的魔術隊友
“I screamed, ‘What the hell are you doing? What the hell are you people
doing?’ It was crazy,” said Scott. “But as poorly as the Magic handled it,
that poll was the straw that broke the camel’s back. Shaq can deal with a
lot. He can. But when the whole city is saying he’s not worth it … nope. He
was gone. And I didn’t blame him.”
Scott說:"我尖叫出來 你們這群傢伙到底在搞啥鬼? 這太瘋狂了
這調查就是壓倒駱駝的最後一根稻草
當整個城市的人都說他不值得這薪水 他不走才怪 我根本不會責怪他"
Scott was right. By the time Gabriel told O’Neal’s agent, Leonard Armato,
that Orlando would pay the $115 million, it was too late. Shaq agreed to a
deal with the Lakers, who, after clearing more cap space, offered $120
million over seven years.
Scott是對的 在魔術隊提出他們願意提供1億1500萬合約時
O'neal已經和湖人簽約 在湖人清出一些薪資空間後 最後的合約是七年1億2000萬
Shaq teamed up with a young Kobe Bryant, and together the duo led LA to three
consecutive championships. Meanwhile, it took Orlando 12 years and a new
franchise center (Dwight Howard) before making it out of the first round of
the playoffs.
O'neal和Kobe一起為湖人拿下三連霸 反觀魔術隊為了接下來能踏出季後賽首輪
以及為了得到下一個看板球星DH 則花了他們整整12年的時間
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Re: [外絮] Iman Shumpert說LBJ知道他毀了籃球
12-22 12:23 jackie0414
推 Luvsic: 短網址貼錯了4F 12/22 12:26
推 f92174: 又是西濱...6F 12/22 12:27
推 r333429: 笑了XDDDDD到底哪裡有提8F 12/22 12:28
推 abc12689: 原來如此 shaq為了躲避追撞遠走洛城11F 12/22 12:29
※ 編輯: jackie0414 (163.27.99.193 臺灣), 12/22/2021 12:31:42
推 abckk888: 笑死 你的連結是怎樣 我還以為是我眼花15F 12/22 12:32
推 melzard: 可見前面酸JA的灰熊迷也可說是不意外了
等JA離開灰熊甚至奪冠如果灰熊還是上不去就真的重演歷史16F 12/22 12:32
推 liusim: 奧蘭多人是因為有PENNY拿翹嗎 那個投票也太搞笑19F 12/22 12:34
推 semicoma: 佛州你能要求什麼呢?(攤手)20F 12/22 12:34
推 vovoson: 如果2019勇士辦一個K湯KD的票選 不知道球迷會投誰24F 12/22 12:42
推 CCFbest: 一個不同意,魔術更有力27F 12/22 12:47
推 QOO9142: 明明是Shaq改變魔術 那時以中鋒為主打 還把錢先砸Penny 魔術高層豬頭29F 12/22 12:49
推 balabala56: 辦那投票根本老闆想殺價 結果被湖人捧鈔票挖走31F 12/22 12:49
推 minoru04: 那個投票應該是球團跟雜誌串好的吧32F 12/22 12:50
→ gowaa: 這新聞原來現在大家都不知道了啊..34F 12/22 12:52
噓 corlos: 想殺價最後小丑是自己35F 12/22 12:53
推 malain: 這篇正解給推36F 12/22 12:53
→ corlos: 因為北澤也要錢 歐肥也要 負擔不起
結果論來說是完全的投資失敗 臭名到現在37F 12/22 12:53
推 QOO9142: 96年Shaq因傷缺賽一陣子 魔術確實打的比較好 但那是假像39F 12/22 12:54
→ corlos: 如果現代籃球以北澤為中心去建隊還行41F 12/22 12:54
推 dannyshan: 可憐歐肥 雖然生涯都是隊上最強 但是其實地位都是老二 人氣和老闆考量都不是第一選擇42F 12/22 12:54
推 coox: 新聞的影片 那是甚麼怪獸!!44F 12/22 12:55
推 drcula: 那時候薪資空間小,一隊有一個7年一億的就差不多了,也是當家球星的證明,魔術先是給了Penny,之後給俠客的可能性本來就不高了45F 12/22 12:55
推 balabala56: 影片復原挺清楚的 沒看過歐瘦怎麼強暴籃框的建議看49F 12/22 13:01
推 ChrisPaul03: O'Neal到湖人以後還沒有立刻升天 是換了禪師才登頂51F 12/22 13:01
推 depo: 不高就交易阿,不用羞辱歐肥52F 12/22 13:01
推 satousei: 因為紅色光頭太神,四大中鋒都被他打趴,而當時全世界都覺得penny是他的接班人。結論:紅色光頭的錯54F 12/22 13:03
→ a36645456: 他只要求要他價值內的,主要是問券吧,超不尊重人62F 12/22 13:10
推 sxzc: 好想看Ja約滿走人64F 12/22 13:12
推 phix: penny要是不燃燒打久一點 可能還不錯啊66F 12/22 13:13
推 juseschen: 現在隨便拿個人的薪水做同樣問卷一定也是同樣結果啦,職業運動球員對世界貢獻本來跟薪水本來就不成比例。設計這個問卷的人是豬頭67F 12/22 13:15
推 baseball5860: 本來就不用弄什麼白癡問卷,一般人根本不懂球只會打嘴砲而已好嗎71F 12/22 13:19
→ findwind0826: 不是設計問卷的人是豬頭 是整個高層都是豬頭
根本就不該出現這份問卷73F 12/22 13:19
推 dogville: 問題不是出在轉隊,是組團,舉Shaq為例差太多75F 12/22 13:22
推 ccl007: 運動員薪水也要公投 很好 這很庶民 XDDDDDDDDDDD76F 12/22 13:22
推 lovesm8627: 壓價也只可能魔術降價,湖人又不會降,這問卷根本來鬧的77F 12/22 13:23
→ findwind0826: 就羞辱歐肥阿 當時歐肥一直被質疑不專心打球
這也是為什麼魔術先開給Penny79F 12/22 13:25
推 tomoti: 結果penny那合約就太早簽了,也很便宜XD81F 12/22 13:32
推 coox: 為什麼球星簽約時期敢作這種問卷啊 白癡嗎?82F 12/22 13:35
推 Qorqios: 那個問卷如果不是LA反間計就太好笑了XDDDD83F 12/22 13:38
推 watwmark: 其實就Penny人氣高比較能賣票 當年後衛搖擺人正盛行85F 12/22 13:56
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