看板 NBA作者 Two4 ()標題 [外絮] Jordan:我不在乎連續得分紀錄時間 Fri Mar 18 04:41:35 2022
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Michael Jordan: "I don't care about the points, but I needed to know that you
believe in me."
FILIP TRIVIC JAN 3, 2019
Doug Collins played from '73 to '81 and coached four different teams between
'86 and '13. He has played and coached with and against a lot of historical
figures in the NBA. That gives his words credibility when speaking about a
player's character in the game, and he has a fantastic story about the nature
of MJ.
曾為現役球員的 Doug Collins 生涯執教過四支球隊,而在他的球員與教練生涯中,曾與
許多歷史級球星共事或者對抗過,這樣的背景讓他談論球員特質時有其可信度。他曾分享
過一個小故事,可以表露出 MJ 的本質。
Collins coached MJ during his Washington days for the second time (first being
from '86 to '89 in the Bulls). They had a good relationship, and MJ asked for
him to be the coach. Then one day, Collins sat an old MJ in a loss to Indiana.
Collins 執教過 MJ 兩次,第一次是 86 至 89 年在公牛時期,第二次則是 MJ 在巫師二
次復出時。他們有著良好的交情,MJ 希望 Collins 來執教。而有一晚作客溜馬隊,
Collins 在球隊落後下讓老 MJ 坐在板凳上,巫師最終輸球。
He would later find out that Jordan had an eight hundred something streak of
scoring double digits that Collins stopped by keeping him out of the game with
only 8 points. The reporters pushed this issue at the conference, and he felt
like this will become a thing. Collins didn’t just sit the GOAT, Jordan was
also the part-owner and president/GM of the team. He actually hired him and
later in the tenure decided to come back and play. So, double trouble for
Collins. After the game, Michael sat next to him on the bus to talk about what
had happened.
他後來才知道 Jordan 當時還保持著連續八百多場的連續得分雙位數紀錄,但這紀錄被
Collins 中止了(Jordan 下場時只得了 6 分),賽後記者會上記者告訴了他這件事。
Coliins 曉得這肯定會引起話題,他不止是讓 GOAT 坐了冷板凳而已,Jordan 在巫師同時
還是共同老闆/總經理身份,事實上是 Jordan 聘請 Collins 來做教練的,對一般人而言
Collins 肯定有大麻煩了。賽後球隊巴士車上,Jordan 坐到了 Collins 旁邊聊了聊當晚
發生的事。
He got on the bus, and he said: "Scoot over." He looked at me, and he asked,
"Do you think I can still play?" and I said, "Absolutely, that's why I'm here
to help you." He (Jordan) said, "You know, to be my coach, you have to believe
in me and believe I can still play." I said, "Michael, I believe in you."
Collins:「他(MJ)上了車,對著我說『讓一讓,給個位子。』接著他看著我,問道:『
你覺得我還有能力繼續打球嗎?』
我回答:『當然,那就是我為什麼來這裡幫(執教)你。』
他接著說:『你知道的,要當我的教練,你必須要相信我,相信我還能在這戰鬥。』
我說:『Michael,我相信你。』
"You did the right thing, You did the right thing. I don't care about the
points, but I needed to know that you believe in me."
『你做了正確的決定,那是對的。我不在乎什麼連續得分紀錄,我只需要知道你還相信我就
夠了。』」
After that, they had a few drinks and smoked a few cigars on the plane back
from Indiana. Not recommendable for any athlete, especially a 41-year-old. They
packed it in around 3:30 am and MJ was in the gym at 7:30 the next day working
out with Tim Grover.
而那之後,他們倆在回去的機上一起喝了點酒,抽了些雪茄。當然這些對運動員是不好的
,特別是對一個 38 歲的老傢伙。他們凌晨 3:30 回到華盛頓,早上 7:30 Jordan 就已經
跟著 Tim Grover 在訓練了。
The next game MJ scored on first three possessions, and the opposing coach
called a timeout. He told Collins where he wants to get the ball and not to
take him out of the game until he tells him to. MJ finally asked for a sub with
two minutes left in the game. When Collins asked him what it was all about,
Jordan told him the guy that was guarding him said Jordan he was having back
problems. "Don't ever tell me you got a problem; I'll make you pay for that."
He finished that night with 51."
下一場比賽,MJ 開場連續三個回合都得分,對手教練喊出暫停。Jordan 告訴 Collins 他
想要在哪裡拿到球,而且在 Jordan 自己說要下場之前不要換下他。之後 Collins 問他發
生什麼事的時候,Jordan 回答說防守他的人自己透露了背不舒服。「永遠不要讓我知道你
出了狀況,不然我會讓你付出代價。」終場,Jordan 攻下了 51 分,在下一場,得到了
45 分。
Most players would take issue with the double digits streak. MJ just wanted to
know his coach still believed in him.
大部分球員可能對這類連續紀錄都會有所介意。而 MJ,只要知道他的教練還相信他,就已
經足夠了。
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推 sasewill: 時代變啦老頭,現在流行垃圾時間還是要刷兩分3F 03/18 04:46
推 ODFans: 真的是舊時代思維 新時代的想法是組團拿冠刷紀錄5F 03/18 04:52
推 maloneliu: 我記得背痛的是Kenyon Martin6F 03/18 04:53
實際上對手背痛的故事是發生在下一場 45 分打籃網時,那個傻瓜就是 Kenyon Martin 沒
錯。Collins 把很多細節夾雜在一起了。
https://www.baltimoresun.com/news/bs-xpm-2002-01-01-0201010144-story.html
推 rs6000: 現在的goat只把教練當毛巾架。上場時間他說的算9F 03/18 04:58
※ 編輯: Two4 (180.94.144.245 澳門), 03/18/2022 05:07:07
推 wpd: 巫師喬丹沒啥說服力....14F 03/18 05:15
推 ATSEVEN: 有人在臭?然怪你喬得分紀錄被我羌屌打15F 03/18 05:17
推 TSroin: 這誰,有現任山羌偉大嗎16F 03/18 05:22
推 wwf1588: 還好龜不是喬丹的隊友 不然不給吃飯18F 03/18 05:24
推 eessddy: 不要再鞭了 你要羌迷全部哭死在廁所嗎?21F 03/18 05:28
推 lovesinker: 喬丹每次被嘴都是個性,現在有一個極差的幫他解套了25F 03/18 05:33
→ rs6000: 哪個教練敢叫LBJ坐板凳??/
哪個球員可以每年洗隊友?29F 03/18 05:55
→ saTUnotSATO: MJ:派背痛的守我? I took it personal.31F 03/18 06:01
推 derrick1220: MJ在華盛頓很不爽ㄚ 因為是股東身份 又考量到票賣的也不好 才復出下場打32F 03/18 06:03
→ kai08130623: 羌迷:世代傳承,他們明明交情很好
你自己看明星賽75周年他們有說有笑36F 03/18 06:16
推 rkune: 慘啊 最硬的榮譽追不上真GOAT就算了 現在淪落到要在垃圾時間猛刷分 這分數怎麼拿到的有看比賽的球迷跟同場競技的球員完全看在眼裡38F 03/18 06:19
推 Wavecloud: RMBJ哪有不相信教練和GM 他只是把他們當自己的傀儡41F 03/18 06:23
推 annela: 山羌到底什麼意思 我看超久看不出來QQ42F 03/18 06:23
→ Wavecloud: 而已 LeGM LeCoach不是叫假的
因為他想當山羊goat 但怎麼看都當不成 變成假羊山羌(鹿科) 下面還有兩條腿能抱43F 03/18 06:23
推 derrick1220: 記得老巴也有針對此事公開揶揄過MJ 說出錢當校長還要兼撞鐘之類的話 其實是說到MJ心坎裡 但人都不愛聽實話 尤其是帶有嘲諷性質的實話47F 03/18 06:28
推 nick1628: 等姆斯刷到411,老喬還是得讓位吧50F 03/18 06:37
→ weather12: 讓什麼位,高度大家都看在眼裡,刷到911也一樣51F 03/18 06:40
推 pp3435: 其實lbj追紀錄,聯盟也推了一把。比如限制高中跳級生。52F 03/18 06:42
推 hank13241: 限制高中進入NBA應該跟LBJ無關54F 03/18 06:51
推 meson: 曾為球員就好了吧 曾為現役球員聽起來語意有點怪57F 03/18 07:02
推 bb819597: 反觀那個在球場比賽進行中看數據的58F 03/18 07:08
噓 enemyli: 時代變了 現在自以為的goat要在垃圾時間刷好刷滿
還會鬥教練 什麼叫教練相信他已經過去式了59F 03/18 07:09
→ kai08130623: 限制高中生還不是因為球隊老闆不願意承擔自己或者球探看走眼的機率61F 03/18 07:09
噓 chan15: 詹寶真的瘋狂找文耶63F 03/18 07:14
推 CaTkinGG: 大學的訓練讓喬丹培養出對教練的服從64F 03/18 07:16
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推 mmchen: 反觀某個刷10分才要下場68F 03/18 07:17
推 JUNGTE: 喬丹如果像姆私一樣有目標的追求數據,應該會累積出更多離譜的成績70F 03/18 07:20
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→ elvita: 看老詹上季受傷還硬要上場刷3分湊十分就知道了吧
高度跟老喬完全不在一個等級 賈霸要是跟他一樣如此算計分數 紀錄早就刷到4萬分了75F 03/18 07:24
噓 HsiangFly: LBJ:連續得分上雙紀錄我的 四萬分也是我的我才是山羊78F 03/18 07:28
噓 mirac1e: 時代不一樣了 現在流行垃圾時間刷分83F 03/18 07:37
→ testttt: 教練遇到姆斯只能當毛巾架84F 03/18 07:37
推 chccang: 某人:我看你是完全不懂刷喔86F 03/18 07:43
推 kaga1991: 這也可以扯帶風向 是多不願面對呢 cc87F 03/18 07:44
→ Toy17: 反觀88F 03/18 07:44
→ kaga1991: 當大家沒在看球 只看box數據喔 嘿嘿90F 03/18 07:45
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→ nick1628: 這些高風亮節的小故事有什麼屁用,笑死,數據才是真的,等411出來老詹的聲勢就上來了,等著看吧93F 03/18 07:46
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