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作者 windown (每日一甘)
標題 [花邊] Draymond在Inside the NBA完全沒有貢獻
時間 Sat May 18 09:37:49 2024



先附上原文:
https://defector.com/draymond-green-brings-nothing-to-inside-the-nba
Draymond Green Brings Nothing To 'Inside The NBA' | Defector
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While the nostalgia cycle for the "Roundball Rock" era has already started, as have the eulogies for the current era, the bosses at TNT Sports have co ...

 

昨天Reddit有一篇討論串非常熱絡,不輸金狼戰的熱度;美國那邊的鄉民對Draymond這幾
天頻繁出現在TNT上頭感到反感,且認真討論他的評述缺失

昨天晚上看完原文,因為也蠻喜歡Insideguys這幾個老頑童,裡頭提到了Inside the
NBA這檔節目為何會成功且讓大家喜歡的原因,個人是蠻認同的,所以來分享一下文章

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Draymond Green Brings Nothing To ‘Inside The NBA’
Draymond在《Inside the NBA》完全沒有貢獻

It's possible that the Inside the NBA crew is in its final postseason together
, with the scuttlebutt that NBC has outbid Warner Bros. Discovery to get in on
 the next NBA TV deal. While the nostalgia cycle for the "Roundball Rock" era
has already started, as have the eulogies for the current era, the bosses at
TNT Sports have come up with a shrewd move to help soften the blow: Make the
desk worse by bringing in Draymond Green.
有消息說NBC已經擊敗華納兄弟探索,贏得了接下來的NBA電視轉播權,這也意味著《
Inside the NBA》團隊可能正在度過他們的最後一個季後賽。與此同時,TNT Sports的老
闆們想出了一個聰明的辦法來減少節目可能消失所帶來的影響把Draymond帶進團隊,讓
節目變得更糟。


Green has been in the TNT orbit for a few years now, occasionally joining the
desk from time to time, working this season's All-Star Game, and running his
weird little mini-documentary about how Falcon-punching his younger teammate
was a test of adversity to bravely overcome. The 34-year-old Warriors forward
is clearly positioning himself for a post-career tour of duty in sports media.
 Why else would he break out the podcasting rig hours after losing a playoff
game if he wasn't truly committed to getting these takes off? It makes some
sense; he has a defined personality and knows ball.
這幾年,Draymond偶爾會出現在TNT的節目中,這個賽季的全明星賽上也有他的身影,還
有那個奇怪的小紀錄片,講述他如何「勇敢地」克服與隊友的衝突。這位34歲的勇士前鋒
顯然在為退役後的體育媒體生涯做準備。否則,他為什麼在輸掉季後賽後還要馬上開啟播
客錄音設備?這樣看起來有點道理,他有明確的個性,也懂籃球。


On the other hand, Green is best known for melting down and hurting his
opponents. Also, his podcast sucks. He seems to view Inside The NBA not as a
source of basketball analysis, but as a platform from which to be dismissive
and settle scores. When Bulls guard Alex Caruso came on the show on Wednesday
and mentioned what a bummer it was that his teammates Coby White and DeMar
DeRozan both finished as runners-up in two NBA end-of-season awards, Green
butted in and smirked that DeRozan couldn't have won Clutch Player of the Year
 because his team didn't win enough. Barkley correctly pointed out that Green'
s team was unceremoniously ejected from the play-in.
但另一方面,Draymond最出名的還是情緒失控和傷害對手。而且,他的播客也很爛。他似
乎並沒有把《Inside the NBA》當作一個分析籃球的頻道,而是一個可以讓他去輕視他人
,以及算舊帳的平台。當公牛後衛Alex Caruso上節目說到他隊友Coby White和DeMar

DeRozan在賽季末的獎項中都是亞軍時,Draymond插話說DeRozan不能贏最佳關鍵球員獎,
因為他的球隊沒贏夠多。Barkley隨即補槍,Draymond你的球隊也在附加賽中被淘汰。
來源: https://x.com/NBAonTNT/status/1790880438157713546 

Also on Wednesday, when the show interviewed Jayson Tatum after the Celtics
advanced past the Cavaliers, Green managed to belittle the Timberwolves,
Pacers, Thunder, and Al Horford in the course of asking one question, which
Tatum artfully sidestepped.
同樣是在週三,當節目採訪了剛剛戰勝騎士的塞爾提克球員Jayson Tatum時,Draymond在
提問過程中還貶低了灰狼、溜馬、雷霆和Al Horford,而Tatum則是巧妙地避開他的問題

來源: https://x.com/NBAonTNT/status/1790920021264224621

Worst of all, Green was permitted to analyze the play of Timberwolves center
Rudy Gobert, a man he put in a chokehold in a game this past November. Green
has harbored a grudge against Gobert for years. He transparently does not like
 or respect him. While it's not the job of a studio analyst to be even-keeled
and rational at all times, it's hard to glean any useful insight from his
analysis of the Nuggets-Wolves series when the only real message he wants to
communicate is This guy sucks. You can also find that in the comment section
of any NBA Instagram post.
最糟糕的是,Draymond被允許分析灰狼中鋒Rudy Gobert的表現,在去年11月的比賽中,
他還曾經掐住Gobert的脖子。Draymond對Gobert懷有多年的怨恨,明顯不喜歡也不尊重他
。雖然一個運動節目分析員不需要時時刻刻保持公平理性,但當他的分析全都是「這傢伙
很爛」時,實在難以從中獲得有用的見解。你甚至可以在隨便一則NBA Instagram貼文裡
頭,都能找到類似這樣的輕藐評論。

來源: https://x.com/NBAonTNT/status/1790622832696693127

The strength of Inside the NBA is the crew's willingness to get weird and do
bits. The desk dynamic can produce occasional moments of comedic genius, like
the time Chuck complained about Shaquille O'Neal getting praise for reading
off of a teleprompter then immediately stumbled over his words, when Shaq
pushed the outer limits of mathematics with his bonkers gas-filling strategy,
or when Shaq opined that the Moon is roughly twice as far from Atlanta as
California is. It's the proper combination of self-deprecation and old-man
grouchiness, with Ernie Johnson serving as an effective moderator and Kenny
Smith as the teacher's pet. There are a lot of 2012-era reaction GIFs in 144p
and the occasional low-energy sourness that can make the show corny and
unwatchable, but for the most part, it works.
《Inside the NBA》的魅力在於他們願意搞怪和玩一些有的沒的那些有喜劇天份的傢伙
總能在那張小辦公桌上產生妙不可言的精彩時刻比如Chuck抱怨Shaq只是因為正確讀了
提詞機上的詞而受到讚賞;或是有次Shaq用自己的瘋狂加油理論挑戰了數學這門科學的極
限;又或者當Shaq說月球和亞特蘭大之間的距離大約是月球到加州的兩倍時。有趣的自嘲
、類似老頑童之間的發牢騷,再配合上一個有效率的主持人Ernie Johnson,以及他們的
寵物Kenny,所有上述元素完美地結合在一起。儘管節目中不時還是會出現一些過時的特
效,或是偶爾的低能量抱怨,讓它顯得老土且想馬上轉台但大多數時候,節目還是很好
笑。


And it works because they can laugh at themselves. Chuck and Shaq are always
jabbing each other, but they take their in-studio beef exactly as seriously as
 they should. When Shaq wants to settle a score nobody else cares about, or
bring Nikola Jokic on after he won MVP specifically to tell him he shouldn't
have won MVP, the rest of the group can move the show along. You don't need
one more guy who does the same thing, but worse.
這節目之所以成功,是因為他們能自嘲。Chuck和Shaq總是互相打趣,但當他們要嚴肅地
討論事情時,卻又總是正經八百。如果Shaq突然翻起一個沒人想關心的舊帳,或是在
Jokic獲得MVP的當晚接受訪問,卻當著面告訴他我認為你不該獲得MVP時,其他人依舊能夠
挽救,並且讓節目可以繼續進行。你不需要另一個人來做同樣的事,而且做得更糟。


Green is on the desk for the wrong reasons, and he simply doesn't have the
juice. He's not funny, and he can't contain an ounce of his competitive nature
. It's a letdown to come off the high of something like Jokic's Game 5
masterpiece and get to Green smirking and talking about how other teams are
cooked, as if he isn't in the studio because the Warriors were play-in chum.
Stop trying to relitigate the 2017-18 DPOY vote; the game's on.
Draymond加入這個節目是出於錯誤的原因,而且他根本沒那個實力。他不搞笑,也無法控
制自己的競爭天性。見證了Jokic第五場比賽的驚人表現之後,卻接著看到Draymond在節目
上嘲笑其他球隊的糟糕狀況時,真的讓人感到失望就像他忘了自己是因為勇士在附加賽
被淘汰才坐在這裡一樣別再重提2017-18年度最佳防守球員的投票了,現在是看比賽的時
候。


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※ 作者: windown 2024-05-18 09:37:49
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suckmanisme: 同意,開除他吧1F 05/18 09:41
kevinduh4: 不意外2F 05/18 09:41
asdatp: 然後呢?3F 05/18 09:42
kingchen5: 連歐尼爾跟老巴都能拉下臉了 蛋綠真的不適合做節目4F 05/18 09:42
Wwc0130: 這節目就是要聽幹話搭配一點正經 前天那個VC搭JC也是不行 有夠無聊5F 05/18 09:43
s925407: 真正的幽默在於嘲弄他人,也能夠自嘲,嘴綠完全無法自嘲,卻常常嘲諷他人,讓他看起來只是個爛人而7F 05/18 09:43
love1500274: 那你找一位收視率比他高的來啊==9F 05/18 09:43
s925407: 沒有喜劇效果10F 05/18 09:43
takataka: 緯來請糗爺當球評的感覺11F 05/18 09:43
Trulli: 推翻譯整理好文12F 05/18 09:44
takataka: 真的痛苦13F 05/18 09:44
Wardyal: 這節目不是本來就是請幾個小丑來搞笑嗎14F 05/18 09:44
love1500274: 又不是沒找過其他來賓 其他來賓就真的沒啥爆點15F 05/18 09:44
CCFACE: 同意 別讓他進到這個畫面 不和諧16F 05/18 09:44
toto831206: TNT的合約是到明年17F 05/18 09:44
chenliu0716: 翻譯辛苦了,感謝18F 05/18 09:45
headcase: 季賽的失敗者 季後賽很閒可以上節目19F 05/18 09:45
toto831206: 你要不要查證一下資料再來 TNT合約到明年啊20F 05/18 09:45
pfw: 確實21F 05/18 09:46
yeustream: 確實22F 05/18 09:46
turnpoint: 嘴綠除了用冠軍數來酸人外還有什麼?他這輩子最幸運的事就是隊友有Curry,名與利與酸人的本錢跟打人的特權都來自Curry跟勇迷的buff23F 05/18 09:46
Zante: 怎麼看完我反而更想看他節目了?這種節目就是要噴垃26F 05/18 09:49
vinc4320: 想聽籃球談話節目只服Paul George27F 05/18 09:49
Zante: 圾話,引起爭論啊,一板一眼反而無聊!28F 05/18 09:49
sxing6326: 嘴綠就典型低情商,這種人在講究即興表演的節目怎麼可能會有好表現29F 05/18 09:50
a9564208: Shaq 霸凌別人但至少他是司機,嘴綠?31F 05/18 09:50
yuchiwang: 雀食32F 05/18 09:50
yourmmaa: 可悲失敗者來這裡吠33F 05/18 09:51
jerrystarks: 別讓咖哩不開心34F 05/18 09:51
JKjohnwick: 不意外啊,這個人完全沒有幽默感,情緒控制也不行35F 05/18 09:52
DuoDuokk77: 嘴綠自己節目講一些東西也是蠻不錯的36F 05/18 09:52
XDKab1g0n: 簡單來說 歐肥老巴的效果 他沒有 技術分析又不到家那他沒特異功能了 還要在這邊給人嫌喔
回去陪咖哩四爺養老啦
真的 Podcast P超讚 推爆37F 05/18 09:53
ROCArmy623: Tatum厲害,没被嘴綠釣到41F 05/18 09:53
frankie30432: 0輪還敢笑別人42F 05/18 09:54
gaiaesque: 就是個拉雞..43F 05/18 09:55
seemoon2000: 他季後賽階段各種評論 一開始蠻信他 結果都不太準44F 05/18 09:55
Leaflock: 分析沒料又沒梗 是誰要看45F 05/18 09:56
turnpoint: Tatum講話超得體,保護隊友也尊重所有球隊46F 05/18 09:56
jyekid: 嘴綠上節目收視率應該是上升的吧47F 05/18 09:57
eric20601: 會看inside the nba就是要看那四人組的48F 05/18 09:58
smik: 其實他分析球賽和戰術不錯,問題是他有想要放下情感用公平公正的立場去分析49F 05/18 09:58
stocktonty: 譁眾取寵吧51F 05/18 09:59
XDKab1g0n: 老實講Tatum也是很好的球隊老大52F 05/18 10:00
manno: 嘴綠能公正分析的話,就不會有上面那篇文章了53F 05/18 10:00
XDKab1g0n: 他不是AE那種自信好勝
也不是阿肥那種幹話務實
他就很穩 和他的球風一樣 低調扎實 為青賽定下基調他不會每場比賽爆發得分
但他補足青賽隊友的所有不足
所以青賽才成為一個強隊54F 05/18 10:00
k960674: 這篇文章也提到一個點:如果不是嘴綠更爛,那歐肥其60F 05/18 10:01
PaulPierce34: 他應該上心理治療,而不是上TNT61F 05/18 10:01
k960674: 實也早該滾了,一個也是仗勢欺人的爛人62F 05/18 10:01
ARTORIA: JT人就很好 不懂在這一直被黑63F 05/18 10:01
saberwong: 我覺得除了老巴以外的都可以炒了64F 05/18 10:02
SC30mvp: 嘴綠幫球評就跟他打球一樣 好好講(打球)有料 但他就是不會專心在好好講(打球)65F 05/18 10:02
Miyanishi25: 推薦這篇文章67F 05/18 10:03
SC30mvp: 比起固定上節目 真的應該固定去找諮商師68F 05/18 10:03
XXXaBg: 嘴綠podcast前兩年蠻有料的 現在一堆廣告69F 05/18 10:04
b19900127: 被咖哩帶起來的過譽仔70F 05/18 10:04
zangif: Kenny變成寵物???71F 05/18 10:06
a8856554: 這麼會分析,想必72F 05/18 10:06
alittleghost: 4>073F 05/18 10:07
hunt5566: 蛹迷確實忘記自己已經被淘汰了,而且還是0輪74F 05/18 10:07
Predrag26671: 他不是看起來是個爛人 他就是75F 05/18 10:08
joemovie: 你不專業至少要好笑,嘴綠兩者皆無76F 05/18 10:08
Predrag26671: 找KD來上自己節目背書當初是球團亂搞 甩鍋高層
然後過一陣子又開始大噴特噴KD靠勇士77F 05/18 10:08
Rover: 噗 嘴綠打球至少有打好過 當球評可沒什麼好表現過耶這樣也知道他當球評有料喔?79F 05/18 10:09
melzard: 這篇講的很讚耶
而且還有一個很重要的點 老巴歐肥等人可不是現役
時期就去當球評的 身分不同讓你有些話不能講的讓人信服 因為你還和場上那些人有關係的81F 05/18 10:11
lanchenchen: 不專業又不好笑然後自我感覺良好85F 05/18 10:13
melzard: 而且歐肥雞巴歸雞巴 但是他至少很清楚自己上節目
的目標是要娛樂觀眾 而嘴綠並沒有這種概念吧86F 05/18 10:13
Tommy92C: 所以這篇意思是退役才應該上這節目?88F 05/18 10:14
henry910119: 現役沒什麼問題吧 老人也會被嘴幹古89F 05/18 10:15
sxzc: 可憐人90F 05/18 10:15
henry910119: 問題是有沒有分析到位 他為什麼不能批評gobert 只要是合理都可以 跟他球隊被淘汰有關係嗎91F 05/18 10:16
XDKab1g0n: 現役你也可以參考Podcast P93F 05/18 10:17
kattte: 我覺得評論的很中肯94F 05/18 10:17
XDKab1g0n: 不敢講的 找當事人自己講
所以這都不是問題95F 05/18 10:17
cama: 綠師傅那口吻就坐實了0輪仔貶低季後賽隊伍97F 05/18 10:20
pongbao: 這傢伙只有蛹咪跟咖哩喜歡98F 05/18 10:20
McDaniel: 沒有自知之明的過譽仔,靠狐假虎威薛到幾個冠軍99F 05/18 10:21
tarantula32: 推 但teacher's pet也太直翻210F 05/18 17:20
dustinhuang: 有歐肥就讓評論顯得很沒說服力211F 05/18 17:40
phantom: 建議可以找姆斯,反正也被淘汰了,看看有沒比較好212F 05/18 19:20
chioyuan: 噁綠去練格鬥整骨比較實在啦213F 05/18 22:25
sj210444: 同意,嘴綠滾吧,我比較想看PG模仿老巴。214F 05/19 06:32

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