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標題 [情報] Kerr談苦命、吉巴與咖哩的合作關係和未來
時間 Fri May 23 16:13:26 2025

Steve Kerr would love for Jonathan Kuminga to turn into an updated version of
Shawn Marion or a close copy of Aaron Gordon and ease right in as a
consummate complementary piece next to Stephen Curry, Jimmy Butler, and
Draymond Green.

I suspect many of Kuminga’s current Warriors teammates would love that, too.
Sometimes, I’m sure that Kuminga understands and embraces this practical
path for his still-young career.


Steve Kerr希望Jonathan Kuminga能夠成為現代版的Shawn Marion，或是Aaron Gordon的

翻版，在Stephen Curry、Jimmy Butler與Draymond Green身邊擔任一位理想的輔助型球

員。我相信許多勇士隊友也有相同的期望。有時候Kuminga似乎也理解並接受這條對他這

位年輕球員來說極具實際性的成長道路。



They know that the Kuminga situation is problematic. The Warriors know paying
him his market rate would shoot them over the first apron and deep into the
luxury tax. They know that in a perfect world, Kuminga would’ve been a star
by now and well worth every minute and free-agent dollar. But this isn’t a
perfect world. And he’s not a star yet — and might never get there on this
team (or any team).


他們知道Kuminga的情況頗為棘手。勇士隊若要以市價留住他，將會突破第一層薪資上限

，並深陷豪華稅泥沼。在理想情況下Kuminga此時應該已經成為一名明星球員，值得每一

分鐘的上場時間。但現實並不完美而他也尚未成為球星，甚至在這支球隊（或任何球隊）

中可能永遠都無法達到那個高度。


“It’s a tricky one because Jonathan obviously is gifted and wants to play a
bigger role and wants to play more,” Kerr said on my podcast Wednesday. “
And for me, I’ve been asked to win. And right now, he’s not a guy who I can
say I’m going to play 38 minutes with the roster that we have — Steph and
Jimmy and Draymond — and put the puzzle together that way and expect to win.
…

“All I do is I try to win. That doesn’t necessarily mean everybody’s going
to be happy, whether it’s the fans, or the players, or management, whatever,
it’s just I’ve gotta do what I think is best.”


Kerr在播客中說：「這件事很棘手，因為Jonathan顯然是一位有天賦的球員，並希望能擔

任更重要的角色獲得更多上場時間。但對我而言，我的任務就是贏球。現在以我們擁有的

陣容來看，我無法說我會讓他打38分鐘，然後還期待能贏球。」

「我所做的一切，就是設法贏球。這並不意味著每個人都會滿意，不論是球迷、球員，還

是管理層。我只是盡我所能做出最好的決定。」



This wasn’t meant as a definitive sendoff for Kuminga. On the Warriors’
 side, Mike Dunleavy will have the most say about Kuminga’s future, which
will be decided when everybody finds out which other teams are interested,
what they offer, and if a sign-and-trade deal can be hammered out. It’s
still possible that Kuminga ends up back with the Warriors next season. And
this is just one of the issues the Warriors are facing this offseason. But it
’s the biggest one and it has the most potential ramifications.


這並不是對Kuminga的告別。就勇士方面而言，球隊總經理Mike Dunleavy將對Kuminga的

未來擁有最終決定權，這將取決於其他球隊是否感興趣、他們提出什麼報價，以及是否能

達成簽換協議。Kuminga下賽季仍有可能繼續待在勇士。而這僅是勇士休賽季面臨的眾多

問題之一，但卻是最具潛在影響的問題。



The Warriors just don’t have many ways to add to their roster other than
seeing what they can get for Kuminga. And they definitely need to add some
better-fitting pieces to their roster. So it’s a good thing that, as Curry
put it and Kerr concurred, their run with Butler gave the Warriors so much
clarity about the next few seasons. “You know, as soon as we traded for
Jimmy Butler, we got really good,” Kerr said. “And as soon as Steph Curry
got hurt, we lost. And sometimes it’s that simple.”


勇士並沒有太多方式補強陣容，除了看看能否透過Kuminga換來更合適的球員。而球隊確

實需要提升陣容的適配性。正如Curry和Kerr所說，與Butler合作後讓勇士對未來幾個賽

季的方向變得更加明確。


Kerr：「自從我們交易來Jimmy Butler我們就變得非常強。而當Curry受傷後，我們就輸

球了，事情就是這麼簡單。」


And you can believe that Butler should’ve been more aggressive shooting the
ball once Curry was out, but you also have to understand that he instantly
added so much to the Warriors precisely because he is so adamant about
setting up his teammates.

“I think Jimmy, he’s a subtle superstar,” Kerr said. “He doesn’t jump
off the page when you watch him from afar from a skill standpoint, from an
athletic standpoint. But as soon as you’re with him for a few days, you see
the impact. You see how strong he is, how smart he is, the footwork. He
rarely turns it over. And he’s so smart, he reminds me a lot of Andre
Iguodala, the way he sees the game.


你也可以認為Butler在Curry缺賽期間應該更積極出手，但也必須理解，正因為他堅持為

隊友創造機會，他的加入才讓勇士的整體運作變得如此流暢。

Kerr說：「我認為Jimmy是一位細膩的超級球星。從遠處看，他的技巧與運動能力可能不

那麼顯眼，但只要和他共事幾天，你就會看到他的影響力。他很強壯、非常聰明、腳步扎

實，極少失誤，他的籃球智商讓我想起Andre Iguodala。」


“Jimmy’s main thing that he wants to do is pass. And you know me, I believe
passing is the key to the game, I really do. We’ve always had good passing
players on our most successful teams, guys who distribute, who see the game,
who understand that a good pass, whether it’s an assist or not, unlocks an
offensive possession. And a couple good passes on a possession means your
defense is set up and the game is flowing and it’s connected. Jimmy does all
that. And that’s why we started winning.”


「Jimmy最想做的事就是傳球，而你們知道我一直認為傳球是比賽的關鍵。最成功的球隊

裡總有優秀的傳球手，這些人懂得看比賽、懂得一個好傳球即使不是助攻也能解鎖整個進

攻回合。若一個回合能出現幾次好傳球，防守也能立刻就定位，整場比賽也能打得更流暢

與連貫，Jimmy就是這樣的球員，這也是我們開始贏球的原因。」


“This kind of reminds me — this topic of, ‘Did Jimmy shoot enough?’ —
 kind of reminds me of … before LeBron (James) won any championships and he
was with Cleveland,” Kerr said. “And he’s passing to open teammates for
game-winning shots and they miss and then the next day, it’s like, ‘Why didn
’t LeBron take the game-winning shot?’ It’s like, well, because that was
the right play and his teammate got a wide-open look, that’s why.

“Every player is unique to himself. I think Jimmy’s an incredible player.
But if you want him to score and there’s no spacing around him, which was
the case for the last four games of the series without Steph, it’s going to
be really hard to score, especially against a guy like (Jaden) McDaniels with
(Rudy) Gobert at the rim.”


但問題來了，在沒有Curry的情況下，Butler在第4和第5戰加起來只出手20次，這樣的方

式是否太過保守，錯失幫助球隊多撐一場以獲得讓Curry回歸的機會？


Kerr回應：「這讓我想起過去人們對LeBron James的評論，在他還沒贏冠軍還在克里夫蘭

的時候。他在比賽最後傳球給空檔隊友，但隊友沒投進，隔天輿論就會說：『為什麼

LeBron 不自己出手？』原因就是那是正確的選擇，他的隊友有一個大空檔。」


「每個球員都是獨一無二的。我認為Jimmy是一位不可思議的球員。但如果你希望他得分

，場上又沒有空間，比如最後四場Steph缺陣那樣，要得分會非常困難，尤其面對有像


Jaden McDaniels那樣的防守者，還有Gobert鎮守禁區。」


Both Curry and Kerr have spoken recently about their unique relationship
after all these years and how much they count on each other as they lead this
team. Draymond, for sure, has a key voice on team matters. But over the last
few years, it’s become more and more of very valued partnership between Kerr
and Curry.

“There’s no coincidence why this has lasted 11 years,” Kerr said. “Steph
has been an incredible partner and an amazing guy to collaborate with. He
sets the tone culture-wise for everything we do. And we have a great bond. I
think we share a lot of the same values as human beings. We share a similar
vision of how the game should be played.

“And we look forward to seeing each other every day. So why wouldn’t we
keep this thing going? And why wouldn’t we still enjoy this? And that’s the
dynamic I saw with (Gregg Popovich and Tim Duncan) when I played for four
seasons with the Spurs. It was very similar. It was collaborative, it was
authentic, genuine love and friendship. A lot of humor, a lot of joy. It’s
hard to find that, but Steph and Tim are very similar in that regard. To me
probably the two most collaborative superstars, the most easy to work with
superstars that I could imagine.”


Curry與Kerr最近都談到了他們多年來建立的獨特關係，以及在帶領球隊過程中彼此有多


麼的仰賴對方。雖然Draymond無疑在球隊中也擁有關鍵話語權，但這幾年來，Kerr與Curry


之間的夥伴關係變得愈加珍貴與重要。

Kerr表示：「這段關係能夠維持11年絕非巧合。Steph是一位難以置信的夥伴，也是一位

很棒的合作對象。他為我們所做的一切奠定了文化基調。我們之間有著深厚的連結，我認

為我們在人格特質上共享許多相同的價值觀，也有著對比賽應該如何進行的共同願景。」

「我們每天都期待見到彼此，那為什麼不繼續這段合作？為什麼不繼續享受這一切？我曾

在馬刺打球四年，那時我親眼目睹了Gregg Popovich與Tim Duncan之間的互動，這種關係


很相似合作性強、真誠、充滿愛與友誼，還有很多幽默與歡樂。這樣的關係很難得，而

Steph和Tim在這方面非常相像。對我而言，他們大概是我能想像到最具合作精神、最容

易共事的兩位超級球星。」


While Curry, Butler, and Draymond are all signed for two more seasons, Kerr’
s most recent extension expires after next season. But he reiterated that he
has zero concerns about the situation and is happy to let things happen
naturally after next season.

“If they want me back, I’d probably say yes,” Kerr said. “How could I say
no to the Warriors and Steph and Draymond? But I’ve also learned that there’
s no reason to even consider what’s gonna happen in the next year because
none of us have any idea.”

But he’s definitely not setting this up as the final year of his coaching
career.

“I love what I do and I’m not sitting here thinking, like, ‘Yeah, I’m
wrapping this thing up and I don’t have the energy,” Kerr said. “I’m not
thinking that way at all. Again, this is the NBA and my contract is for
another year. Let’s put that to bed. I don’t want to have any discussions
about my contract for the rest of the year. I just want to go into next year
and have a great season and then we’ll re-address it.


Curry、Butler和Draymond都還有兩年合約在身，而Kerr的合約則將在下賽季結束後到期。

不過，他強調自己對此毫無擔憂，願意順其自然地等待賽季結束後再討論未來。


Kerr表示：「如果他們希望我留下，我可能會說好，怎麼可能對勇士、Steph和Draymond

說不呢？但我也學到，不需要過早去考慮未來，因為我們誰也說不準一年後會發生什麼。

」


他最後也強調，自己並沒有打算將下一季當作執教生涯的最後一年。


「我熱愛我做的事，我不會坐在這裡想：『是時候收尾了，我已經沒有精力了。』

我完全不是這樣想的，這是NBA而我的合約還有一年。我希望這個話題就此打住，我不想

再花一整年談論我的合約，我只想好好度過下個賽季，然後我們再回頭談論這件事。」





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Steve Kerr opens up on Kuminga, Butler, and his Warriors' future Jimmy Butler's arrival gave Steve Kerr hope for his team's near-term future, but there are still difficult roster considerations to manage. ...

 

短評或心得：明年完整賽季的吉巴加上勇士還是很讓人期待

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推 OsmanGo: 還老詹公道的只能是Kerr了1F 05/23 16:15
推 ken720331: 咖哩不在我也想要退了2F 05/23 16:19
推 ayubabbit: 笑死 所以當kerr讓他打38分鐘大概就是不想贏了
LBJ就真的是很優秀的球員 只是他想撞瓷對象太強3F 05/23 16:20
→ bm1041644: Kerr說LBJ傳球是正確的 要被追殺了嗎？5F 05/23 16:22
→ ayubabbit: 以前也有人批評MJ只喜歡自幹不會傳球
他就刷了好幾場大三元  結果勝率還比較低6F 05/23 16:23
噓 simon0529: 柯學家用人唯親，毀了一個球員8F 05/23 16:23
→ ayubabbit: kobe也獲得同樣的感想
傳給那些投不進的我還不如自己投9F 05/23 16:23
噓 K951753: 科學家別再害人 讓苦命去可以發揮的地方 在這被大家11F 05/23 16:25
推 deann: 苦命嘎要當老大 不要當副手 交易出去吧12F 05/23 16:25
→ K951753: 嫌真的夠了13F 05/23 16:25
推 ayubabbit: 當你不是kobe或是MJ的時候 傳球真的很正確14F 05/23 16:26
推 cysticercus: 真的是攤牌15F 05/23 16:28
推 yoyonigo: 養了一堆只會幫咖喱打球的 然後咖喱不在 投籃 跑位防守都不見了16F 05/23 16:29
推 gigiabc: 會怕MJ Kobe所以上包夾
不怕LBJ所以單防讓他打到爽
十年前的Kerr就已經奠定防LBJ聖經了18F 05/23 16:29
推 kenclyde: kerr不是很愛臭老詹嗎，說老詹給他三個戒指21F 05/23 16:30
→ ayubabbit: 難怪他這麼喜歡LBJ22F 05/23 16:31
推 ttmm: 山羌鼻子癢23F 05/23 16:32
推 downtoearth: 我相信波波也會有 TD不在時的劇本 當你有苦命，有士官長 然後你沒辦法炒出另一盤 CURRY不在的菜24F 05/23 16:32
推 peterw: 推樓上26F 05/23 16:34
噓 LA24: 是不是在臭姆斯27F 05/23 16:38
推 yoyonigo: 波波在TD時期的20年 戰術就不知道變過幾套了 他基本都是以TD以外的人來設計戰術 然後TD也很願意調整配合28F 05/23 16:39
推 PeterHenson: 說穿了就是為了個人位置在那邊死拖著忽視球隊未來性31F 05/23 16:42
推 stocktonty: 真正強的人就是不管什麼戰術 都能發揮影響力就像TD32F 05/23 16:42
推 nckukath: 現在就是如果苦命要上場跟咖喱重疊時間會很長，重疊的時候沒辦法跑戰術33F 05/23 16:43
→ PeterHenson: 而已 那三個是多有爭冠本 Kuminga還要等到他們退了35F 05/23 16:43
→ stocktonty: 不以他為主攻點 他在場上一樣是攻防一體大黑柱36F 05/23 16:43
→ PeterHenson: 黃金期早就錯過37F 05/23 16:43
→ stocktonty: 怎麼會反過來說教練應該給我時間 為我打造戰術
真那麼有未來性 對手的攻防重點擺自然會在你身上38F 05/23 16:44
推 panjanhon: 目前柯爾就還想用咖哩為核心  如果不能配合就只能去別隊了40F 05/23 16:47
推 toeic900: 咖哩頂薪也要戰術地位也要，跟鄧肯比？42F 05/23 16:47
推 haworz: 輸家才在那邊傳球正確打法，贏家就直接投進。43F 05/23 16:48
推 Stat14: 是時候來一篇「建隊要選TD還是SC」的文了吧= =44F 05/23 16:54
推 gigiabc: 說穿了 苦命球商不行啊
士官長初來乍到 團練沒幾次直接無縫接軌
跑戰術可以視為正確籃球 就是像呼吸喝水一樣 自然不過的事45F 05/23 16:56
推 limitlesscit: 苦命還是離開比較實際49F 05/23 16:57
推 spy9527: 苦命能養成圍巾那樣就偷笑了，是要給多少地位50F 05/23 16:57
推 HiSop: 快離開吧 這隊三老人佔位只要年輕人當他們看護領繩51F 05/23 16:57
→ w08445566: 太難了52F 05/23 16:59
推 zyic: 零53F 05/23 16:59
→ ghchen1978: 姆咪錯亂中!54F 05/23 17:01
→ hunt5566: 三個老害害慘年輕人55F 05/23 17:06
推 toeic900: 年輕人實力夠自然錢多有地位，怎麼反過來要求球隊培養你呢lol56F 05/23 17:10
→ h75311418: 現在還是靠老人才能贏耶平行時空喔
新人當巨星養天才58F 05/23 17:11
→ qpeter: 咖哩 吉巴 嘴綠 以現今制度 球隊很難給第四位後的球員太高的薪水 何況苦命還不一定球隊中的第四位球員60F 05/23 17:15
推 TaiTY2021: 不夠老不夠矮柯學家不用啦63F 05/23 17:16
推 CycleEnergy: Kerr愛嘴綠自然會更愛升級版的姆斯64F 05/23 17:25
推 kem0606: 詹酸追殺名單+165F 05/23 17:25
→ Cishang: 都已經多久了,說苦命不合不搭不夠強都可以接受但到底為啥到現在還想要留阿66F 05/23 17:28
推 moneyguy: 換一個護框中鋒吧，勇士實在太矮了68F 05/23 17:34
推 chinhan1216: 哪有啥難理解的 留住他才能保住陣容再變動的機會69F 05/23 17:35
→ ghchen1978: 看看薪資結構很難??70F 05/23 17:38
噓 k450012: 不用就放他走…花一堆錢簽下來然後不用的意義在哪71F 05/23 17:39
噓 boa711211: MDJ做正確的決定吧。就是Kerr就是該滾的那一個，不用再懷疑了他都公開放話了，如果此時你還指望JK會傻傻續約那就真白癡了72F 05/23 17:41
推 lwjno1: 我沒看過TD輸球踢椅子發脾氣，放話球隊要改變75F 05/23 17:45
推 GyroZep: 狗鼻命中率這麼差，敢吹噓不傳球是在76F 05/23 17:46
→ VL1003: 苦命有 TD 那完成度，還輪得到勇士選？77F 05/23 17:53
推 Aether13: 就byc不好處理而已 不然肯定直接簽換的78F 05/23 17:55
噓 candbilly153: 在吉巴來之前你每次把苦命冰在板凳哪次有好結果的？講得好像過去幾年勇士冰苦命有贏球一樣79F 05/23 17:57
→ VL1003: 選一隻球齡超短的新秀，然後給的時間又少，現在反81F 05/23 17:57
推 turnpoint: 這樣講一定引戰，但是姆斯都認命當二哥了，勇士還82F 05/23 17:57
→ VL1003: 過來說他如果可以 OO 就能有時間，那幹麻不選完成83F 05/23 17:57
→ turnpoint: 要讓咖哩當一哥嗎？不是說現在的苦命大於現在咖哩84F 05/23 17:58
→ VL1003: 度高可以當即戰力的那種？還一直放話給媒體，讓球85F 05/23 17:58
→ turnpoint: ，也不是說要讓苦命當一哥，而是勇士的建隊決策思86F 05/23 17:58
→ VL1003: 員吃這種炮火，真的是很棒的團隊文化。87F 05/23 17:58
→ turnpoint: 維都是建立在要讓咖哩當一哥的前提且不容挑戰，這樣真的好嗎？
這不就像老大生涯最後幾年，所有小將都必須配合已經退化的老大打球那種很奇怪的情況88F 05/23 17:58
→ VL1003: 也沒有不好吧，只是真要這樣做，不合用的球員就快點交易換合用的綠葉，一直握著又罵爛，真的不懂。92F 05/23 17:59
推 gigiabc: 咖哩上場正分 姆斯上場負分 不要偷換概念好不好==94F 05/23 18:06
→ QRZ563: Curry如同Duncan ，但Kerr永遠比不上波波95F 05/23 18:06
→ kofight: 咖哩一哥是一定的 勇士最有效率的得分方式就是讓咖哩在他節奏裡投三分球 哪怕只有一點點空間 其他人去掩護和搶板就對了 勇士要思考的是 沒咖喱的時候96F 05/23 18:07
推 csy0922: 哭狸說要維持球隊競爭力就必須維持競爭力 嘴綠吉巴99F 05/23 18:07
→ harry0702000: 要打聰明籃球，結果場上五個傳接球半天不是失誤就是丟炸彈219F 05/24 11:08
推 toeic900: 勇士拜託以咖哩建隊到他退休喔221F 05/24 11:21
→ ming0408: 太苦啦222F 05/24 11:46
推 reborn6229: 三個老人超過35的老人要拿冠軍有可能嗎？223F 05/24 17:25

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