作者 vincentgotu (網壇的人)標題 [問題] 2025溫網決賽的勝負關鍵時間 Mon Jul 14 10:45:05 2025
最好的方式當然是問Wimbledon. 於是我就問Wimbledon match chat:
tell me what's the numbers that Sinner did better than Alcaraz
過了幾秒鐘, 他回答: Jannik Sinner did better than Carlos Alcaraz in committing
unforced errors, with 40 compared to Alcaraz's 36, and also won more return
points, securing 44 out of 121, whereas Alcaraz won 36 out of 117.
咦? 40比36好嗎? 怪怪的. 但回發球是Sinner比較好, 這個資訊正確
還進一步問我: What else would you like to know? Select an option:
Duration
Break Point Conversion
Unforced Errors
我選第2個, 他這次沒思考了, 立回: During the match, the break point conversion
rate for Jannik Sinner was 44%, and for Carlos Alcaraz it was 33%.
於是這樣的模式, 我在Wimbledon match chat的引導下, 點選Second Serve Point
Won %. 答案是: Jannik Sinner won 60% of points on their second serve, while
Carlos Alcaraz won 51% of points on their second serve during the match.
但如果我自己發問: what about first serve point on %? 他就會思考比較久, 但還是回
答了: Jannik Sinner won 75% of his first serve points, while Carlos Alcaraz
also won 75% of his first serve points
後來我問了這個
Net Points Won
也是回很快: Jannik Sinner won 30 net points, while Carlos Alcaraz won 17 net
points in the match.
好了, 以這個問題做結: what about net point won %?
Jannik Sinner won 75% of his net approaches, taking 30 net points out of 40
approaches, while Carlos Alcaraz won 74% of his net approaches, securing 17
net points out of 23 approaches.
這樣看起來Sinner的數據是大部分領先Alcaraz的, 搭配整場看下來, Carlos的強力正拍
跟雙反變線雖然一樣噁心, 但Jannik似乎不受威脅. 反而是球王的超快速抽球, 讓Carlos
出現了比較多的非受迫, 或者也算是受迫失誤, 所以我又續問match chat:
I: let me know the numbers of forced errors for each players during the final
C: I see you're curious about ‘Match Stats’. Do you want to know more?
Yes
No
I: yes but just show me the numbers of forced errors in men's final
C: Sorry, I don't have enough information to answer that here. Please click Home
button to reset the chat and explore this topic further!
好, 看來他無法回答了. 我自己問了一下winner:
Jannik Sinner hit 40 winners, while Carlos Alcaraz hit 38 winners during the
match.
結論: Match chat蠻有意思的, 但其實直接看match report比較快
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※ 編輯: vincentgotu (134.231.162.123 臺灣), 07/14/2025 10:45:45
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推 Myeh1720: 網球很常出現得分多但輸掉的比賽啊......10F 07/14 11:30
推 coolboy16: 說分數多的贏 少的輸的是第一次看網球….？11F 07/14 11:31
推 ygjhsu: 卡沒有一盤打到搶七 發球局不夠穩
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推 kenclyde: 分數多的贏，2019的費爸表示?14F 07/14 11:50
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正拍也時不時失靈 很多打長的球15F 07/14 11:52
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推 mattch: 通常都是沒看比賽硬要嘴一句28F 07/14 12:23
→ b99202071: 對啊 2發Alcaraz草地上這次沒退超遠去拉上旋29F 07/14 12:23
→ coolboy16: 有沒有可能在草地退很後面拉上旋效果比不上在紅土，而且會被巴回來？30F 07/14 12:28
→ b99202071: 或是怕拉不夠深 拉太大力又會噴出界?
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在那之前皇帝...痾那時是太子H2H4:3領先32F 07/14 12:31
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