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作者 EZ78 (EZ78)
標題 [外絮] 關於Sarver處分The Athletic 長文FAQ
時間 Thu Sep 15 11:50:18 2022

 
來源: The Athletic
https://bit.ly/3RKyZzl
What did Suns owner Robert Sarver do, and can the NBA dump him like Donald Sterling? - The Athletic
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Answering and explaining the questions people have about Sarver's punishment and how it came to be. ...

 
另外名記者Sam Amick自己也有寫一篇 措辭更加強烈 但我只有手機懶得翻了XD
 
內容:
The NBA punished Robert Sarver Tuesday after the conclusion of a 10-month-long i
nvestigation of the Phoenix Suns and Mercury owner. Sarver has been suspended fo
r one year from having any role with the two organizations, and has been fined $
10 million.
 
NBA在長達10個月的調查之後星期二懲罰了太陽與水星隊老闆Robert Sarver。他被從兩隊的
管理層停權一年並罰金10M。
 
The suspension came after the NBA hired a law firm to look into allegations of r
acism and misogyny by Sarver in an ESPN article published last November. The inv
estigation, performed by white-shoe law firm Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katzn N
ew York, looked into his 18-year tenure at the helm of both franchises. The leag
ue published a 36-page report of its findings, documenting a long list of transg
ressions by Sarver.
 
這個處罰是在NBA在去年11月一篇ESPN文章指控Sarver種族歧視與仇女後委託法律事務所調?
的。這是由紐約白鞋所(指精英級別的法律事務所)Wachtell, Lipton與Katz事務所接手了Sa
rver長達18年份、2支球隊的擁有歷史的調查。聯盟出版了一個36頁的報告並記錄了Sarver?
滿的踰矩。

 
Sarver, the report found, used the N-word “at least five times in repeating or
purporting to repeat what a Black person said — four of those after being told
by both Black and white subordinates that he should not use the word.” He dispa
raged women in the workplace, including telling a pregnant woman she would not b
e able to do her job after she became a mother, and engaged in “unequal treatme
nt of female employees.”
 
Sarver如同報告發現的一般,使用N-Word”至少5次重複或惡意模仿黑人講這個字-4次是在黑
人或白人下屬叫他不要講了之後。”他在工作場合輕視女性,包含了告訴孕婦他在生下小孩?
將會被開除並涉入了”對女性員工不平等的待遇。”

 
The investigation painted a picture of a hostile workplace, headed by Sarver, wh
o would embarrass employees and make them feel uncomfortable with behavior that
ranged from what the investigation called “sophomoric” to discriminatory. But
fault did not lie with Sarver alone; the investigation found that the Suns organ
ization was a “difficult place for women to work, particularly if they have you
ng children” and that executives occasionally treated women differently there t
han men.
“Sarver believed workplace norms did not apply to him and viewed common convent
ions as to what language he should use and what conduct he should avoid as a for
m of challenge,” the report found. Additionally, the report notes that “witnes
ses said that Sarver’s workplace actions often seemed intended solely to provok
e a reaction from employees — to embarrass them or assert dominance over them.?
 
 
這個調查刻畫出了Sarver所領頭的高敵意工作環境。他會作弄員工並用報告指稱的”二年級
小朋友”至歧視性的行為來使員工不舒服。不過這並不只是Sarver的錯;調查指出太陽隊是?
”對於女性,尤其是已經有小孩的女性來說很艱難的職場”且管理層經常性的對女性有差別?
遇。調查指出”Sarver認為一般職場的規矩對他並不適用且對於正常的規範嗤之以鼻並認為
刻意違反他們是一種挑戰。”另外,報告說”目擊者證實Sarver的職場動作常常是為了引發?
工的反應—藉此使他們難堪並展現自己的高高在上。”

 
Here is an FAQ as to what we know so far about Sarver and the Suns, as a result
of the NBA’s investigation.
 
這裡是關於NBA調查結果的FAQ
 
What did the NBA find in its investigation?
 
NBA在調查中發現了什麼?
 
The report, commissioned by the league, outlined a troubling pattern of behavior
 by Sarver that included his use of racial epithets; that he “used language and
 engaged in conduct demeaning of female employees;” that he made crude jokes ab
out the physical appearance of women — including female employees of the Suns;
that he twice made male employees uncomfortable by getting naked or showing his
genitals; and that more than 50 “current and former employees reported that Sar
ver frequently engaged in demeaning and harsh treatment of employees… that on o
ccasion constituted bullying under workplace standards.”
 
這份由聯盟認證的調查細數了Sarver很有問題的行為模式,其中包含了他對於種族歧視性綽?
的使用;他”用言語及涉入一些羞辱女性員工的行為”;他會對女性外表開一些很粗糙的玩笑
—其中包含了太陽的女性員工;他曾經藉由裸露與秀出生殖器2次造成男性員工的不適(抱歉
我停一下 嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔);並超過”50名現任與前任員工檢舉Sarver曾對他們有過羞辱以及?
薄的對待…這構成職場標準下的霸凌行為。

 
The report did not deduce a definitive reason for his actions, but its authors w
rote that “Sarver often acted aggressively in an apparent effort to provoke a r
eaction from his targets; Sarver’s sense of humor was sophomoric and inappropri
ate for the workplace; and Sarver behaved as though workplace norms and policies
 did not apply to him. Witnesses observed that Sarver “lacked a filter” and“
thrive(d) off” saying and doing things to make others uncomfortable.”
 
報告並沒有明確的指出他這些行為的原因,但作者寫道”Sarver時常積極的要引起他目標的?
應;Sarver的幽默感對於職場極其幼稚與不適當;且Sarver的行為表現出職場規範與政策在他
身上並不適用。目擊者觀察到Sarver完全不過濾並不在意他的言論和做一些讓其他人不舒服
的事。”

 
How did the law firm obtain this information?
 
法律事務所如何取得這些資訊的?
 
Investigators at Wachtell, Lipton, Rosen & Katz began work in Nov. 2021 and reac
hed out to every employee currently employed by the Suns, to more than 150 forme
r employees, and had 20 former employees reach out on their own. The investigato
rs ended up speaking with 320 people — including Sarver and 12 Suns minority ow
ners. The Suns waived any nondisclosure agreements in effect after being asked b
y the investigators. They reviewed more than 80,000 texts, emails, and documents
 from Suns employees. They also watched 51 archived Suns employee meetings. The
Suns cooperated in full, the report said. “Early in the investigation, the inve
stigators learned that the Suns’ HR department had historically maintained poor
 records, and, accordingly, the HR files received by the investigators were limi
ted in number, incomplete, and disorganized,” the report said.
 
律師事務所的調查於2021年11月開始,聯絡了每一位現任太陽員工,多於150位的前員工,且有
20位主動聯繫了律師事務所。調查者到最後與320個人聊過—其中包含了Sarver與12位太陽?
東。太陽隊在調查者要求之後也放棄了所有保密協議。他們審視了80000份太陽員工的簡訊,
email與文件。他們也看了51份太陽會議的存檔。太陽隊完完全全地配合。報告指出”調查?
期,調查者意識到了太陽人資部門有不好的歷史紀錄,並指稱太陽人資給出的檔案數量有限,?
缺且紊亂。”

 
Sarver was interviewed and his work and personal emails were reviewed. As was hi
s phone, which was “forensically imaged and reviewed for materials responsive t
o the investigators’ requests.”
 
Sarver有被訪問且他的工作與個人ema都有被檢視過。也如同他的手機,”法醫式的投射並負
責任的依照調查者的要求檢視這些證物。
 
Why does the NBA have the authority to punish Sarver?
 
為什麼NBA有這個權威可以處罰Sarver
 
The investigation found that Sarver’s actions were in violation of the Suns wor
kplace policy and the NBA Constitution. The latter gives commissioner Adam Silve
r the power to investigate issues that could impact the NBA in a negative way to
 impose punishment in the best interest of the league.
 
調查發現Sarver的行為違反太陽與NBA機構的職場政策。後者給主席Adam Silver以他造成NB
A負面影響為由處罰他的權力以獲取聯盟的最大利益。
 
What exactly did Sarver do?
 
Sarver實際上做了什麼?
 
Sarver used the N-word at least five times, including in a 2004 recruiting meeti
ng with a free agent, during a team-building exercise, and at least twice retell
ing an incident with a player’s family member. “As early as 2004, Sarver was m
ade aware that he should not use the N-word even when repeating another perso’
s use of it,” the report said. After Sarver used the N-word during the 2012-13
team-building exercise in front of players and some coaches and front office sta
ff, summarizing what a player had said, a team representative told him he could
not say the word.
 
Sarver使用了N-Word至少5次,其中包含了於2004年與一名自由球員的招募會議(難怪沒人要?
笑死)與球隊建築內運動並至少2次於一場與球員家人的事件中覆述。”早在2004, Sarver早
已被告知他不該在另一個人講的時候復述。”報告指出。根據一個球員說, 在Sarver 12-13
年在球員與一些教練面前,在球隊代表早告訴他不該講這個字的狀況下用這個字。

 
In October 2016, after a game against the Warriors, Sarver complained to a Black
 Suns coach that a Black Warriors player was allowed to say the N-word without p
unishment. The report recounted the interaction: “Why does (the Warriors player
) get to say (N-word, N-word, N-word, N-word, N-word)?!” After the coach said,
“You can’t f—ing say that,” Sarver replied, “I can’t say (N-word, N-word,
N-word)?” Sarver then sent an email to the NBA league office complaining about
the officiating during game, mentioning several other instances, but also “he p
urported to quote the Warriors player as saying the N-word spelled out with an ?
a” at the end,” according to the report.
 
在2016年10月一場對決勇士的比賽後,他對太陽黑人總教練抱怨為啥黑人勇士球員可以說N-W
ord而不被處罰。報告回憶了互動情形:”為什麼(某勇士球員)可以說(B B B B B太長了 我?
))?!”教練說”你他X的不准講”Sarver回道”我不能說(B B B)?” Sarver接下來便寄了一
封email至聯盟判決相關的辦公室,翻出一些不相干的事,並”扭曲了該勇士球員原本是a結尾
的字至er結尾的N-Word。”

 
The investigation found that Sarver “engaged in inequitable and demeaning condu
ct toward female employees, including bullying.” He told one pregnant female em
ployee in 2008 that she could not continue in her role coordinating an event bec
ause when the event was to occur she would have already given birth. “Witnesses
 recalled Sarver saying, in substance, that the employee could not perform the a
ssignment because she would be “breastfeeding” and her “baby needs their mom,
 not their father,” the report said. The woman became upset and cried. Another
employee who had witnessed the event later told Sarver that he had not handled t
hat situation properly; Sarver and a lawyer later called that witness and the la
wyer told her Sarver didn’t do anything wrong and “Sarver then criticized the
witness for questioning Sarver’s judgment.” The pregnant woman kept her job.
 
調查發現Sarver”涉入對女性員工不平等且貶低性的行為,包含了霸凌。”他於2008年告訴?
名懷孕員工她不能再繼續做她活動企劃的職位因為活動舉辦時她已經生下來了。”目擊者回
憶了Sarver的言論,實質上,那名女員工要”餵奶”且”嬰兒需要他們的媽媽而不是爸爸。”
該名女員工難過並開始哭。另一名目擊員工告訴Sarver他這樣處理不恰當。Sarver與律師隨
後叫來了該目擊員工且律師告訴她Sarver沒有做錯任何事並”開始批評該目擊員工不該質疑
Sarver的判斷。”不過該懷孕員工成功保住了她的飯碗。

 
In 2011, a week after he screamed at a female employee because he was unhappy wi
th a video she had produced, causing her to cry, Sarver entered her office and c
losed the door and “said in substance, ‘Why can’t we get along? What’s wrong
 with you?’ When the female employee began to cry, Sarver then said in a raised
 voice, ‘Why do all the women around here cry so much?'” Soon after, Sarver he
ld a lunch for Suns and Western Alliance Bank employees (he is its CEO) and all
employees were women. “Two Suns attendees perceived Sarver’s arrangement of th
e lunch to be a response to the video incident described above, to reflect Sarve
r’s opinion that female Suns employees were insufficiently tough and/or “cry s
o much,'” the report said. “And was intended to enable the female bank employe
es to explain to the female Suns employees how to handle Sarver’s demands. The
same attendees perceived the lunch as uncomfortable and demeaning.” Sarver admi
tted the lunch was arranged but said it was to “facilitate networking between t
he entities,” according to the report. Investigators wrote that they believed t
he lunch was for the purposes stated by witnesses, not Sarver.
 
2011年時在Sarver因為對一名女員工製作的影片不滿意對她大吼並讓他哭的一週後, Sarver
進入她的辦公室並關門,實質上的說”為什麼我們處不好?你有什麼問題?”當女性員工開始?
之後, Sarver隨即提高音量”為什麼這些女人總是那麼愛哭?”隨即,Sarver與阿萊恩西部銀
行的員工(他是CEO)且所有員工皆為女性開午餐會。其中銀行的2名員工反映了上述的影片事
件並指出Sarver認為女性員工都很爛且很愛哭。且想要讓銀行的員工去跟該女員工解釋如何
處理Sarver的要求。這兩位午餐會的參與者敘述該餐會為”不舒服”且”貶低性”的。Sarv
er承認該餐會的存在但他說那只是他要”促進實體上的人際網”。調查者採信餐會參與者的
意見,而非Sarver。

 
The report outlines six times when Sarver made vulgar or sexual jokes to employe
es. It found he sent around pornographic material to male Suns executives, inclu
ding a video and photos of a naked woman.
 
報告指出Sarver至少6次對員工開了低級或是色情的玩笑。他被發現會給太陽男性管理層傳?
情物品,其中包含一支與多張裸露女性的影片與照片。
 
He made male employees uncomfortable, as well. While a male employee was on his
knees giving Sarver a fitness check, Sarver dropped his underwear and exposed hi
s genitals. In 2016, the report said, Sarver stood naked in front of an employee
 after taking a shower in the coaches shower.
 
他也造成男性員工的不適。當男性員工在他的膝蓋上幫他試衣服是否合身,Sarver脫下他的?
褲來讓該男性員工看他的生殖器(嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔)。2016年時,報告指出, Sarver在?
練浴室洗完澡後於一名員工面前脫光衣服的站著

 
On several instances, the report found that Sarver made demeaning or inappropria
te comments about women in the Suns organization, including about the bodies and
 attractiveness of Suns dancers.
 
在多個狀況下,報告發現Sarver對太陽女性員工開羞辱性與不恰當的評論,其中包含了太陽女
舞者的身體與吸引度。
 
Sarver commented about the “sex lives, bodies, and sexual orientation” of play
ers, including at least once about a player’s partner. “In another instance, w
hen the Suns were recruiting a free agent in 2015, Sarver made a joke that the t
eam should have players impregnate local Phoenix strippers so they would feel co
nnected to the area, giving the Suns a potential edge in free agency recruitment
.”
 
Sarver還會對球員的”性生活,身體與性取向”,其中至少一次是對於球員的伴侶。另一個狀
況下,當太陽於2015要招募自由球員時, Sarver說出了隊員應該要讓鳳凰城地方的脫衣舞孃?
孕才能讓他們覺得與當地有連結才能給他們自由球員潛在優勢的玩笑。

 
More than 50 employees said Sarver yelled or cursed at employees as a way to man
age them, including in a way that would be considered bullying under the Suns wo
rkplace policy, according to the report. Sarver denied yelling at employees to i
nvestigators but admitted he may have “raised his voice” after they gave him s
pecific examples.
 
超過50名員工說Sarver對他們大吼大叫甚至是詛咒來管理他們,這也是太陽職場政策被定義?
霸凌行為的其中之一。Sarver否認大吼大叫但在調查者說出詳細情況後承認他可能”大聲了
一點點”。

 
The report states several times that there was “no finding that Sarver’s condu
ct was motivated by racial or gender-based animus.”
 
報告多次坦言Sarver的行為是被種族與性別敵意所驅動
 
Employees expressed concerns and issues with the Suns organization as a whole, t
ying some of them to Sarver’s leadership, but to which the report said it could
 not directly find a connection. The Suns’ human resources department had poor
record keeping and the report said that investigators had trouble corroborating
allegations of racial and gender discrimination in the organization’s hiring be
cause of this.
 
員工表達了他們對太陽與Sarver領導有關的疑慮與問題,但報告沒有發現直接關係。太陽的?
資部門資料保管得非常差所以調查者在調查球隊的僱傭上有種族與性別歧視的指控時遭遇了
困難。

 
“The investigation finds that the Suns organization has been a difficult place
for women to work, particularly if they have young children, and that Suns execu
tives have on occasion treated female employees differently because of their gen
der and/or pregnancy. The investigation also identified a few reports of unwante
d touching and sexual harassment by or of Suns employees, some of which were mis
handled by the team.”
 
調查發現太陽球團對於女性,尤其是那些有小孩的女性來說非常困難,且太陽高層對待女性員
工因為他們的性別與懷孕而有差別待遇。調查也發現太陽員工數個非禮與性騷擾案件都處理
得不恰當。

 
The investigation also found instances of executives engaging in “anti-gay sent
iment.”
 
調查也發現太陽高層數次涉入”反同言論”
 
The report outlines the ways in which the Suns’ HR department has been overhaul
ed since 2021 after it undermined the trust of Suns employees and broke their co
nfidence in previous years.
 
報告細數了太陽人資部門自2021年起因太陽員工過去幾年來對其信任的崩壞的重建方式。
 
What do the Suns say?
太陽隊的聲明
 
大意就是太陽與水星全力配合並有在改善工作環境
 
Phoenix Suns
 
 https://i.imgur.com/YBcPBsW.jpg
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What does Sarver say?
 
Sarver的聲明
 
大意就是我尊重聯盟判決 我道歉 但這些我都沒有做錯且否認部分報告。
 
 https://i.imgur.com/HTCc3oF.jpg
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Why didn’t Sarver get fined more?
 
為什麼Sarver只被罰這樣的錢
 
The $10 million is the most that the NBA could fine him under its rules.
 
1000萬美金是nba可以對他裁罰的法定上限
 
What happens next?
 
接下來還會發生什麼
 
Sarver can’t have anything to do with the NBA or WNBA, the Suns or Mercury, or
his duties as a team governor for the next year. He can’t even attend games. He
 has to undergo a training program for respect and appropriate workplace conduct
.
 
Sarver下一年不能與NBA或WNBA以及他球隊擁有者的身分有任何關係。他不能出席比賽。他?
要接受職場尊重與恰當行為的訓練。
 
What does Adam Silver say?
 
Adam Silver說了什麼?
 
He released a statement with the NBA’s ruling.
 
他釋出了NBA判決的聲明
 
“The statements and conduct described in the findings of the independent invest
igation are troubling and disappointing,” Silver said.
 
Silver說“獨立調查中發現的言論與行為是有問題且令人失望的…
 
“We believe the outcome is the right one, taking into account all the facts, ci
rcumstances and context brought to light by the comprehensive investigation of t
his 18-year period and our commitment to upholding proper standards in NBA workp
laces. I am hopeful that the NBA community will use this opportunity to reflect
on what this great game means to people everywhere and the values of equality, r
espect and inclusion that it strives to represent. Regardless of position, power
 or intent, we all need to recognize the corrosive and hurtful impact of raciall
y insensitive and demeaning language and behavior. On behalf of the entire NBA,
I apologize to all of those impacted by the misconduct outlined in the investiga
tors’ report. We must do better.”
 
…我們相信有考量曬在陽光下的事實,狀況與前後文,全面調查18年來的紀錄以及NBA維持恰?
職場標準的努力所得出的結果是正確的。我希望nba社群能用這個機會來反響這些偉大比賽?
所有地方人們的意義與其代表的平等,尊重,包容。無論職位,權力還是意圖,我們都必須直視
種族不敏感及羞辱性語言與行為所造成的損害性影響。我代表全NBA對這些遭調查者所列出?
行為所影響的人道歉。我們必須做得更好。”

 
Why didn’t the NBA strip the Suns away from Sarver like they did with Donald St
erling?
 
為什麼NBA沒有對Sterling一般把太陽從Sarver手中拿走呢?
 
That’s a good question. It seems now that the Sterling incident might have been
 a one-time case, impacted by the large amount of attention paid to the very pub
lic nature of what Sterling said and all the attention it brought down on the le
ague, especially during the playoffs. It was clear in the aftermath that Silver?
s decision was not universally supported by other NBA owners. This time, the NBA
 handed down a penalty in line with what the NFL gave Daniel Snyder last summer
— $10 million and taking away day-to-day control — after the Washington Comman
ders faced allegations of sexual harassment and workplace misconduct.
 
這是一個好問題。現在看來Sterling的事件可能會是前無古人後無來者,因為他被大量的對?
Sterling的公眾注意力以及當時季後賽期間的關注度所衝擊。很顯然的Silver的決定並不受
所有NBA球隊老闆所待見。因此這次,NBA比照NFL去年夏天給Daniel Snyder的處分—10M罰款
並停權—在華盛頓司令面臨性騷擾與工作場合不當行為指控之後。

 
註:華盛頓司令老闆2009年時問女員工是否能性交並企圖脫掉女員工衣服。對,就這麼一件。
 
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liusim      : NBA的職場環境還是不錯 調查出來也有保障1F 09/15 11:51
liusim      : 轉頭看看廖.....
cody7052    : 換老闆要三分之二的老闆們同意,也就是20支球隊老闆3F 09/15 11:53
cross980115 : 推翻譯 Sarver行徑真的很噁心4F 09/15 11:53
icou        : 簡單講 就是個垃__5F 09/15 11:53
cross980115 : 他行徑遠比Sterling誇張6F 09/15 11:54
pneumo      : 有翻有推 果然是個板主人才7F 09/15 11:54
TSbb        : 太陽好像不意外8F 09/15 11:54
tyrone0923  : Sterling那次比較像是天怒人怨,聯盟想要殺雞儆猴9F 09/15 11:55
※ 編輯: EZ78 (71.232.216.168 美國), 09/15/2022 11:59:50
liusim      : 話說是不是刻意挑休賽季啊 內容看起來跟當初指控沒10F 09/15 11:55
liusim      : 差別~~但調查好久
a22122212   : 感謝翻譯 刻意對男員工露鳥到底是...12F 09/15 11:56
ebabyebaby  : 看起來他並未特別種族歧視黑人而是歧視所有無產階級13F 09/15 11:56
ebabyebaby  : 就是個慣老闆如果在鬼島他這些言行應該不會出大事
TSbb        : 就標準老白男的形象15F 09/15 11:57
tyrone0923  : 就是歧視所有為他工作的人,最好在台灣這樣會沒事,16F 09/15 11:57
tyrone0923  : 台灣有哪個老闆會對男員工露鳥?
sezna       : 對男人露鳥是什麼性向18F 09/15 11:58
RadioMan    : 好噁 露鳥 幹19F 09/15 11:58
hydeless    : 這在慣老闆天堂的鬼島根本是日常20F 09/15 11:59
ljk476820   : 好扯21F 09/15 11:59
TSbb        : 露鳥一直是變態直男的行為啊 有人很喜歡說這是甲22F 09/15 12:00
Fafnir316   : 誇張,這真的該滾23F 09/15 12:00
liusim      : 孕婦那個......濃濃即視感 但在台灣貌似真的沒事了24F 09/15 12:00
Mezerized   : 有的人自己比納粹還右 當然看誰都是極左25F 09/15 12:00
ebabyebaby  : 甲甲?!跟這老闆洗澡最好別在浴室撿肥皂26F 09/15 12:00
hydeless    : $arver也一直罵白人員工紅脖子啊,他就真的只是一27F 09/15 12:00
hydeless    : 個超雞掰的老白有錢男,沒特別歧視黑人,他誰都歧
hydeless    : 視
TSbb        : 露鳥就是權勢象徵 就像監獄有人會肛小白臉 他們當然30F 09/15 12:01
liusim      : 他就變態老人 又很愛酸人31F 09/15 12:01
TSbb        : 不是甲甲32F 09/15 12:01
TSbb        : 黑袍糾察隊的祖國人還會飛到屋頂打手槍
Evonn       : 不是歧視人種或性別,就是歧視所有為他工作或中/無產34F 09/15 12:03
s891234     : 推,好噁,這NBA處罰不了,但沒有證據員工一起告一35F 09/15 12:03
s891234     : 告嗎?
Evonn       : 階級,難怪給薪這麼摳,當球員是為他工作的奴工而已37F 09/15 12:04
breagb3746  : 美國廖38F 09/15 12:04
kitoik5427  : 乾好噁 垃圾真的不分國界種族學歷能力39F 09/15 12:04
cross980115 : 太陽整個職場環境根本被Sarver搞到有毒了40F 09/15 12:05
cross980115 : 刻意露鳥、霸凌孕婦、開會公審樣樣來
ebabyebaby  : 停權一年輕判了Sterling得罪所有黑人停權終身=死刑42F 09/15 12:05
ebabyebaby  : 應該好險他是歧視不分種族跟Sterling一樣專歧視黑人
ebabyebaby  : 早就出大事了
EZ78        : 沒 跟種族關係沒那麼大 主要還是Sterling是季後賽45F 09/15 12:08
EZ78        : 時期突發狀況又在LA 然後又是TMZ報導的 否則Sarve
EZ78        : r的嚴重性高很多
Aggro       : 你就把他想成白人奴隸主思維 大概就這種感覺48F 09/15 12:08
EZ78        : TMZ+LA+季後賽直接把事件升級到全國等級49F 09/15 12:09
kitoik5427  : 謝謝翻譯  可以囂張這麼多年沒事50F 09/15 12:09
kitoik5427  : 難怪他覺得委屈呵呵
Aggro       : 上面說的沒錯 他不是單歧視黑人 基本是歧視所有下屬52F 09/15 12:09
kitoik5427  : 根本不覺得自己有問題53F 09/15 12:10
EZ78        : 然後他直接叫自由球員N 小城市夠不利了這樣誰要去54F 09/15 12:10
Aggro       : 史特林那個我是猜他吸血吸的太明顯  聯盟也不爽很久55F 09/15 12:10
doclin      : 就是歧視窮人,無分男女 膚色,比我窮就低端56F 09/15 12:11
Aggro       : 快艇之前就是擺明我就靠大城市爽賺57F 09/15 12:11
Aggro       : 現在問題是 沙佛其他老闆挺不挺 他有盟友的話就很難
EZ78        : Amick是直接狂噴猛噴噴nba一整篇文 我翻的這篇措辭59F 09/15 12:12
cross980115 : 另外一篇有提到Sarver 在去年的商務會議上聊自己小60F 09/15 12:12
cross980115 : 時候怎麼了解口交、在2011年的員工會議上討論保險
EZ78        : 溫和很多 至少還有有利Sarver的部分62F 09/15 12:12
Aggro       : 扳倒他63F 09/15 12:12
cross980115 : 套64F 09/15 12:12
cross980115 : 還至少20次以上在各種工作場所提到性/性解剖學等等
cross980115 : ,還對女員工侃侃而談自己的懶覺。
EZ78        : Amick超氣67F 09/15 12:13
EZ78        : 所以就會覺得球員不滿判決很正常 更不用說不少歧視
cross980115 : 氣是正常的,正常人看到都會直接開噴的那種69F 09/15 12:14
EZ78        : 字眼都是直接衝著球員來的70F 09/15 12:14
hydeless    : $arver好像叫所有愛爾蘭裔男員工都叫Mick,他就是台71F 09/15 12:14
hydeless    : 灣慣老闆日常啊,美國人玻璃心
cross980115 : 台灣慣老闆也不會三不五時對你談懶覺 露鳥給你看好73F 09/15 12:15
cross980115 : 嗎
hydeless    : 台灣慣老闆性騷擾才厲害75F 09/15 12:15
Aggro       : 台灣職場現在對性騷擾意識很高了76F 09/15 12:16
EZ78        : 台灣慣老闆…可是他是美國老闆欸77F 09/15 12:16
hydeless    : 老直男露懶覺就逞威風啊78F 09/15 12:16
boy80421    : Sarver真的比一開始爆出來的還誇張不少79F 09/15 12:16
sasewill    : 台灣有哪個慣老闆會直接露鳥的啦80F 09/15 12:16
cross980115 : 一開始還想說沒幾個人指證,結果報告一出來 遠比S81F 09/15 12:17
cross980115 : terling 誇張啊
EZ78        : 美國老闆這方面規範嚴格多了 更不用說他很多都是違83F 09/15 12:17
hydeless    : 之前一個台灣老闆叫原住民都叫番仔也沒怎樣了84F 09/15 12:17
EZ78        : 反nba甚至是隊內自己訂的政策的85F 09/15 12:17
EZ78        : 那是台灣有很大的問題啊。
EZ78        : 台灣這樣做沒被罰不代表沒錯欸
gundam01    : 美國禁忌多 但是他有錢屌大88F 09/15 12:18
manny875468 : 感覺罰一罰就沒事了89F 09/15 12:18
Aggro       : 台灣露鳥現在一樣會出問題拉90F 09/15 12:18
hydeless    : 所以應該派來鬼島磨練一下91F 09/15 12:18
cross980115 : 根據調查超過100多人目睹過Sarver 違反太陽隊自己92F 09/15 12:19
cross980115 : 的工作政策規範
gundam01    : 罰錢他球隊省一下就賺回來啊94F 09/15 12:19
hydeless    : 各位的老闆最好每個都沒做$arver哪些破事95F 09/15 12:19
hydeless    : 這世界就是有錢屌就大,出外靠關係,$arver跟其他
hydeless    : 老闆關係那麼好你根本吹不長他拿他沒辦法的
cross980115 : 在台灣也很難見到Sarver這麼誇張的好嗎98F 09/15 12:21
EZ78        : 我倒是很好奇台灣有幾個大型企業老闆敢做這些99F 09/15 12:22
tyrone0923  : 覺得露鳥在台灣是日常的要不要說一下公司名字啊100F 09/15 12:22
EZ78        : Sarver管的不是小公司欸。101F 09/15 12:22
hydeless    : 老詹CP3想要把戰場拖去種族跟性別但$arver這種無差102F 09/15 12:23
hydeless    : 別地圖炮雞掰根本是無解
EZ78        : 呃 可是沙佛是在美國 這些很嚴重。104F 09/15 12:23
nk10803     : 如果在大公司 一般員工也很難見到老闆 應該說老闆也105F 09/15 12:23
nk10803     : 很少視察員工吧
cross980115 : 你在台灣找得到哪個大型企業老闆 露好幾次鳥給員工107F 09/15 12:24
cross980115 : 看、開會霸凌孕婦、對女員工侃侃而談自己懶覺、傳
cross980115 : 色情影片給員工的?
xhakiboo    : 歧視所有人 的有錢老白男110F 09/15 12:25
cross980115 : 超過100多名以上的員工目睹、指證111F 09/15 12:25
nk10803     : 中小企業老闆還有可能 尤其是那種家族企業的XD112F 09/15 12:25
hydeless    : 除了露鳥的部分,我知道的很多台灣老闆都有做過113F 09/15 12:26
EZ78        : 他要是敢指名道姓是哪個老闆 應該都可以幫他找記者114F 09/15 12:26
cross980115 : 慣老闆頂多有一兩項壓榨員工啦,但很難有Sarver 這115F 09/15 12:26
EZ78        : 了啦。116F 09/15 12:26
cross980115 : 麼誇張的117F 09/15 12:26
cross980115 : Sarver 是樣樣來 不是其中一項而已
gowaa       : 所有人都罵 就不是歧視了...呢...119F 09/15 12:27
kitoik5427  : 不用幫台灣講話哈 美國至少會見光 台灣多少自己吞120F 09/15 12:27
kitoik5427  : 之前藥廠少主長期在作業線上露鳥欺負女員工
cross980115 : Sarver還這樣搞了18年122F 09/15 12:29
hydeless    : 還是歧視啊,之前就有爆$arver連VP等級的都照玩不誤123F 09/15 12:29
kitoik5427  : 最後受不了自己偷帶手進去機拍下來124F 09/15 12:29
hydeless    : 啊,高階主管都難倖免於難了,怎麼會對基層員工客125F 09/15 12:29
hydeless    : 氣
hihi29      : 真的罰太輕 應該強迫把球隊賣掉才對127F 09/15 12:29
aeio9875    : 尿老大128F 09/15 12:29
handfoxx    : NBA料老大129F 09/15 12:30
sezna       : 殺佛如果跟其他老闆關係有搞好,要換他蠻難的。130F 09/15 12:31
gowaa       : 太陽換老闆的戲碼究竟能成功呢?131F 09/15 12:31
gowaa       : 究竟何時能*
melzard     : 要2/3的老闆不爽他這門檻太高了133F 09/15 12:32
hydeless    : $arver跟其他老闆關係麻吉的咧,剛爆出來的時候,134F 09/15 12:32
hydeless    : 很多老闆都覺得$arver人很好一點問題也沒有
hydeless    : 你去看美國Reddit的討論也都變成慣老闆大家文了
love1500274 : 版主好137F 09/15 12:34
sezna       : 這個處罰可能就是橋完的結果,真的要換會像快艇138F 09/15 12:34
mangojocker : 雙標聯盟 就這麼簡單139F 09/15 12:41
hanslins    : 他噁心但他沒有動手,差一點就能幹掉殺佛了140F 09/15 12:43
chinhan1216 : 我去游泳池時 有更衣室 也一堆老頭不在更衣室換 直141F 09/15 12:43
chinhan1216 : 接露老二給人看啊 看完整篇就一個白目糟老頭而已
hanslins    : 他如果有動作方面被揭露應該就bye了,例如動手脫員143F 09/15 12:44
SCLPAL      : 要不要看我的迪克先生.....144F 09/15 12:44
hanslins    : 工衣服,接觸員工身體145F 09/15 12:44
EZ78        : 在游泳池跟在職場是兩回事。146F 09/15 12:45
hanslins    : 殺佛的行為跟川普很像,美國白人大男人主義147F 09/15 12:45
hanslins    : 殺佛整篇沒有身體的接觸大概也是他能脫身的原因
hanslins    : 我看他也很噁心,但無法讓殺佛的朋友跟他絕交,他
hanslins    : 的行為沒辦法 讓超過2/3 的老闆幹掉他,只能期待外
hanslins    : 界壓力了
shau7276    : 他歧視比他窮的152F 09/15 12:51
chinhan1216 : 除了那個當人家面露老二 其它就白人慣老闆153F 09/15 12:51
magamanzero : 以這篇來說 我覺得史特林嚴重一些154F 09/15 12:51
magamanzero : Saver除了老二那個 就一般慣老闆 而且重要的是
hanslins    : 我認真想想如果我的好朋友做出殺佛舉動,我會疏遠156F 09/15 12:52
hanslins    : 他,但要我直接翻臉報警還差一點點
magamanzero : 懷孕那個還是保住飯碗了 如果被搞走了 那才是爆炸158F 09/15 12:52
magamanzero : 他沒有針對種族歧視 他就慣老闆...
amen123     : 希望能開除殺佛160F 09/15 12:53
chinhan1216 : 鳳凰城廖老大161F 09/15 12:54
hanslins    : 就跟那個懷孕女員工,她最後保住工作了,她如果沒162F 09/15 12:54
hanslins    : 保住殺佛也bye了,殺佛就是剛好差紅線一點點就bye
hanslins    : 了,他每次都剛好差一點
EZ78        : 律師團是想查最直接的僱傭上有沒有歧視的情形啦 結165F 09/15 12:55
EZ78        : 果太陽人資資料殘破到查不了 笑死
magamanzero : 所以..期待下一次吧 幫楊迷QQ167F 09/15 12:55
hanslins    : 真的幫QQ,他真的沒有史特林嚴重168F 09/15 12:56
EZ78        : 沒 照阿銀的說法 就算有下一次 也很難…169F 09/15 12:56
EZ78        : 史特林那個沒那麼嚴重 甚至證據薄弱很多 只是被他
EZ78        : 老婆賣了XDD
hanslins    : 史特林是直接公開跟歧視火車對撞,還有老婆背叛,172F 09/15 12:57
hanslins    : 殺佛連八字都沒一撇
EZ78        : 本人沒有意願賣的話 誰都動不了…174F 09/15 12:59
Eijidate    : N-Word 是指尼哥嗎? 黑人自己先不要講吧175F 09/15 12:59
EZ78        : 他那一塊的問題不是他講N word的行為本身 是動機與176F 09/15 13:01
babyalley   : 就垃X慣老闆阿 但是沒史特林嚴重 不可能開除掉Sarv177F 09/15 13:01
babyalley   : er
EZ78        : 其他行為179F 09/15 13:01
EZ78        : 你們把史特林當年的事情看太重了 他其實就是兩句種
EZ78        : 族不敏感發言 沙佛是長達18年的系統性問題…
korgh413    : 標準老白男,很有錢ㄋㄚˋㄓㄨㄥ182F 09/15 13:07
donkilu     : 真的是爛人183F 09/15 13:10
magamanzero : 但問題在米國 種族歧視是死罪 慣老闆不是184F 09/15 13:12
cross980115 : 他遠比Sterling 嚴重啦185F 09/15 13:12
magamanzero : 你做一件 種族歧視的事情可能就GG 但做一萬件慣老闆186F 09/15 13:12
magamanzero : 頂多就醫植被投訴
magamanzero : 加權指數不一樣XD
timedilation: 尿老大笑死189F 09/15 13:13
cross980115 : 是因為聯盟上次Sterling 事件搞到讓大多老闆不太支190F 09/15 13:13
cross980115 : 持,所以這次才打算草草了事…
cross980115 : 這個最後一段有解釋
ARCHER2234  : 說句難聽點的,就是那群左派囂張到了極致所以這個愛193F 09/15 13:15
EZ78        : 沒有 Sterling有做的類似事情沙佛都有做…194F 09/15 13:15
JayJayC     : 生小孩就開出是某廖好大嗎195F 09/15 13:15
ARCHER2234  : 歧視的慣老闆反而可能被保下來...196F 09/15 13:15
EZ78        : 他都直接叫黑人N了欸197F 09/15 13:15
ARCHER2234  : 物極必反,他又有種族和錢權三重加成198F 09/15 13:16
EZ78        : 兩個人罪名都有種族不敏感發言這條啊199F 09/15 13:16
cross980115 : 什麼種族加成啦,Sterling猶太人一樣下去好嗎200F 09/15 13:18
Leaflock    : 推翻譯201F 09/15 13:21
hanslins    : 我講得很清楚,殺佛越過黃線但剛好在紅線前停下來202F 09/15 13:22
hanslins    : ,他每次都闖黃燈但剛好沒有針對越過紅燈,無論他
hanslins    : 闖多少次黃燈但聯盟這是第一次追查只能算一次,他
hanslins    : 就剛好都沒有越過紅線
allse1032   : 台灣又領先世界了 美國廖老大206F 09/15 13:23
EZ78        : 如果你覺得史特林踏的是紅線 Sarver早就超過了207F 09/15 13:23
hanslins    : 他講尼哥也剛好紅線前停下,他質疑為啥黑人能講白208F 09/15 13:24
hanslins    : 人不能講?聯盟無法解釋到讓他信服就離種族歧視還
hanslins    : 差那麼一點點
EZ78        : 史特林跟貝勒爺打的種族歧視官司是查無不法的211F 09/15 13:25
hanslins    : 史特林是公開直接對撞美國媒體,你這麼不長眼還能212F 09/15 13:25
EZ78        : 沒 他是刻意叫的。那個問題是後面補的 而且對方都213F 09/15 13:25
hanslins    : 怪誰?214F 09/15 13:26
EZ78        : 跟他講不能這樣叫了還持續叫欸。215F 09/15 13:26
EZ78        : 難不成你真的天真到以為他的問題是認真的問問題?
hanslins    : 他就是類似台灣的館長廖老大之類的,滿嘴幹話,你217F 09/15 13:29
hanslins    : 跟他講這個不行他就幹回來,我實在無法真的為這個
hanslins    : 判他死刑?
hanslins    : 要真正讓他掛就必須抓到他的行為,例如讓女性離職
hanslins    : 之類的,他真的差一點
EZ78        : 你同理放到史特林 你要為了他跟情婦講的吃醋氣話判222F 09/15 13:31
cross980115 : 這跟死刑差那麼多…223F 09/15 13:31
EZ78        : 他死刑?224F 09/15 13:31

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