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作者 hsinhanchu (hsinhanchu)
標題 [情報] 6/19 Q&A
時間 Thu Jun 20 01:46:06 2013




內容很多,我慢慢翻各位慢慢看。長時間翻譯+深夜,有錯請包涵。


首先是Storm公開徵求MM娘犯傻的照片,目前TXSPG的權重和TXHT一樣,所以有可能
一隊有HT當頂車,另外一邊是SPG當頂車。


Today’s issue is “interesting”. Basically, what happened: a flood of
artywhiners, moaning about arty nerfs started spamming the developer thread
and SerB switched to troll mode, as he usually does. Well… you’ll see.
因為RU已經改版完成,所以所有對SPG現狀不滿的人(包含覺得弱到不能玩的和強過頭的)
都跳出來猛砲WG,所以SerB採取了相應的處理...XD


- red screen of death is apparently back for 0.8.6, happens allegedly in
sniper mode, the new detail reduction system automatically sets everything to
minimum and then crashes. SerB’s answer: “Write a support ticket”
狙擊模式下螢幕變紅的問題又冒出來了,新的細節省略系統看來會把所有的效能調到最低
,接著就當掉了。SerB表示「去寫投訴單」。


- the shell prices were rebalanced not only based on their damage and
penetration, but also based on the type of the gun they are used in. That’s
why the (weaker) premium KV-5 shells are more expensive than (stronger)
premium KV-4 subcaliber shells.
砲彈價格不只是依照之前提過的性價比調整,也會依照砲種調整,這是為什麼KV-5的
107mm APCR比KV-4的107mm APCR還要貴。
(這跟沒解釋也沒差多少)

- devs don’t think the tier 8 premium vehicles with limited MM will suffer
from the tier 9 arty (too much)
開發組不覺得把分房保護的T8金幣車扔去給T9SPG砸是什麼大問題

- further measures to reduce arty amount (SS: RU server reports the same 5v5
arty battles as before)? “If necessery”
以後還會砍SPG嗎?(SS:RU還是出現了5v5純砲兵分房)
「有必要的話」

- currently it can be assumed, that tier 10 arty is balanced towards tier 10
tanks
目前可以推定TXSPG的權重和TXHT一樣(所以Storm正在研究)



=SerB的新技能:NPC模式=


- Q: “All the guns now have basically the same accuracy!” (SS: common
complain is that the guns are too accurate) A: “How terrible…”
「現在所有砲都一樣準啦!」
「喔好恐怖喔」
- Q: “Too many fires caused by accurate guns!” A: “How terrible…”
「砲太準整天燒引擎啊!」
「喔好恐怖喔」
- Q: “Mods not working!” A: “How terrible…”
「mod不能用!」
「喔好恐怖喔」
- Q: “Priest moved to another tier, wtf?” A: “How terrible…” (SS: this
question was even in rhymes :) )
「牧師式被拉到三階,搞毛啊!」
「喔好恐怖喔」
(SS表示原本的問題還是押韻的...)
- Q: “The amount of arties did not get lower…” A: “How terrible…”
「SPG的數量根本沒變少啊!」
「喔好恐怖喔」

Well, basically, “How terrible…” was the answer on most complaints about
0.8.6. There is a lot of whine, including “hidden arty buff”. Some
exchanges are actually really funny:
總之SerB對所有抱怨8.6的人差不多都是這樣處理,抱怨的內容包山包海還包含有人覺得
SPG被偷偷buff過。以下是精選集:

Player Vesil: “I am quitting the game!” SerB: “How terrible…”
「老子不玩啦!」
「喔好恐怖喔」
Player Vesil: “You don’t have much of a vocabulary” SerB: “How terrible…

「你就只會講這個嗎!」
「喔好恐怖喔」

Player LordStuped: “Do you have to make fun of players, who don’t like the
patch?” SerB: “How terrible…”
「你一定要這樣取笑不喜歡這次改版的玩家嗎?」
「喔好恐怖喔」

- Q: “FPS dropped significantly…” A: “How terrible…”
「FPS掉得很嚴重」
「喔好恐怖喔」

(later, when asked whether he doesn’t respect players, SerB states: “It is
necessery to distinguish players and idiots. Those are two (unfortunately
still somewhat overlapping) categories. We do respect players, but with
idiots it’s not that simple. This (thread trollflood) happens regularily –
 idiots come here and the thread topic is temporarily exhausted (SS: as in
out of order)”)
SerB之後回應他不尊重玩家這點:「我們必須把玩家和蠢貨分開處理,因為他們是兩群
(很不幸的有重疊部分的)人。我們會尊重玩家,但是對於蠢貨有別的處理方法。現在
的狀況常常發生,蠢貨大批出現讓Q&A用串整個癱瘓(所以必須troll他們?)」


- ingame penetration indicator works automatically, there is no need to
manually adjust values for it
遊戲中的穿甲指示器是全自動的,不需要調整任何數值。

- dynamic camera is apparently fine: “you can turn it off (if you want to)”
動態攝影機功能表現良好,如果想要可以關掉。

- Q: “Why did you decide not to implement the British arty with autoloader?”
 A: “Beause the arty doesn’t come in this patch.” (SS: not sure what SerB
exactly means, probably just a brushoff, either way, the British arty with
autoloaders doesn’t appear in the leaked British arty branch)
「為什麼沒有在這版加入有自動裝彈機的UKSPG?」
「因為這版就是沒有」
(SS:不太確定SerB的意思是什麼,總之在目前已知的資訊中UKSPG沒有自動裝彈機)

- it’s possible there will be various sound settings for 2.0, 2.1 and 5.1
sound
未來可能會針對2.0、2.1和5.1聲道分別做音效設定

- when near tank corpses, jerking of the aim circle left and right is likely
the effect of dynamic camera
當靠近戰車殘骸時瞄準圈突然跳到旁邊去可能是因為動態攝影機

- 8.7 will be a simple patch, containing apparently only content
(vehicles,maps), not functional changes. SerB confirms 8.7 will bring British
arty.
8.7會是個小更新,只會給內容(新車新地圖),不會變動遊戲機制。
SerB確認8.7是UKSPG

- developers won’t be able to judge the effect of 8.6, when 8.7 comes out
(SS: meaning it will come soon), the results will most likely be known in 8.8
tho (SS: later, Storm stated that it takes roughly a month to collect the
date, it’s therefore logical to assume that the British arty will come
within the month)
大意:改版帶來的後果要大約一個月來評估,8.6的影響會在8.8檢討(也就是說8.7應該會
在七月更新)

- the average battle duration is cca 7 minutes and it practically hasn’t
changed since the game came out
從遊戲問世起平均戰鬥時間就是七分鐘前後

- developers are considering the implementation of T58 (T57 Heavy with a
155mm gun) – not as a CW reward vehicle, but apparently as a regular one –
 but SerB states that it’s hard to balance (as in, overpowered)
製作組其實有考慮把T58放進來,不是做為公會戰獎品而是一般銀幣車。
SerB表示問題是太難平衡(6發155砲彈倉)

- shell ejector animation might be added, “when it’s done it’s done”
退彈殼動畫可能會加入,WIDID


- Q: “I went thru the thread, not enough concrete answers, just ridicule…”
 A: “I went thru the thread, not enough concrete questions. How terrible…”
「我把整篇都讀完了,沒什麼具體的回答,超荒謬的」
「我把整篇都讀完了,沒什麼具體的問題,好恐怖喔」

- SerB explains his attitude towards forum whiners: out of all the active
players (those who play once per month), only 1/10000 are whiners, who try to
pretend to be the “voice of the nation”. SerB finds that amusing.
SerB表示他對論壇上嘴砲的想法:「在活躍玩家中有0.01%的嘴砲大濕想假裝自己的意見
就是人民的聲音」,SerB覺得很歡樂。


- Westfield map was changed (SS: not sure I know how exactly, something about
the sloped access from the village near the bridge towards the left base
being removed), it was intentional
Westfield有些地圖變動,這是故意的

- the game is changed in big patches (rather then series of small
minipatches), because: “That’s the general speed of development. The
project is complicated, any changes must be accompanied by serious program
testing. That’s not possible when doing frequent minipatches.”
遊戲是用大更新而不是連續的小更新模式,因為「這是我們整體的開發速度,計劃本身
很複雜,而所有的更動都要嚴格的測試,用很多小更新就不可能這樣做」

- it’s possible the possibility to sell Superpershing for gold will come
even after 8.7 – it’s necessery to implement the mechanism for that first.
超潘退貨可能會延後到8.7以後,因為要先做出退貨用的機制。
(其實可以參照坑爹網的做法,自行賣車,接著由官方發金幣之類的)

“It’s not a complicated mechanism, but as this matter concerns money, it
will have to be tested thoroughly.”
「其實不是個複雜的機制,但是既然牽涉到錢,我們就得徹底測試」

- SerB on arty: “It was created to limit the heavies and especially heavily
armored tank destroyers. The changes were designed to reduce arty effectivity
against fast vehicles, while keeping the “heavy tank killer” function.”
SerB表示SPG的主要任務就是對付重裝車種,特別是重裝TD,這次的改版把SPG對抗
快車的能力減弱,但是主任務能力保持不變。

- SerB doesn’t think the shell distribution within the aim circle will
change further
SerB不覺得砲彈落點散布會再改

- current maps being developed are mostly based on exotic regions, so that
Clanwars maps can use those. Future maps will be more traditional, such as a
“USSR city in winter” (this is an example)
目前的地圖主要是外國(對俄羅斯來說),是為了放到CW地圖,未來會有一些更傳統的,
例如說冬季的蘇聯城市之類的。

- there are still issues with making the friendlist and ignorelist longer,
when it comes to easy ignorelist cleaning, the developers are waiting for the
new reworked chat, they don’t want any temporary solutions
還在研究更大的好友名單和無視清單,製作組會在交談系統更新的時候一併處理

- 0.8.6 contains no “hidden” changes in engine fire mechanism
8.6沒有偷偷改引擎起火機制

- SerB states that FCM50t is doing fine in 0.8.6, players just need to play
it properly – as a medium, not as a heavy, it’s sort of “anti-Superpershing

SerB表示FCM50T在8.6表現良好,只要把他當假HT真MT開就好,某種意義上它是「逆超潘」


- there will be no “spring” special camo implemented
不打算加入春季迷彩樣式

- there will be no “art of war” competition for arty, because the devs want
to nerf it, not make players play it more
不打算舉辦SPG版本的經驗值競賽,因為和開發方向相反。

- it’s unlikely that second German TD line will come in upcoming patches,
but it will most likely come before the Chinese arty
DE第二TD線(WT線)短期內不會登場,但是會比CNSPG更早


- MM mechanism itself did not change in 0.8.6
MM機制本身在8.6沒有更動

- the exact percentual effect of the camo net will not be disclosed (it’s
not confirmed 0.8.6 camo net gives a 25 percent bonus)
偽裝網在8.6的實際數據沒有公布(不確定是不是維持25%)

- Storm is working on new camo system description article
Storm正在寫新隱蔽機制介紹文

- it’s not possible to make the dynamic camera not-optional, because that
would mean transferring the camera calculations to the server. If it becomes
possible, the camera will become compulsory.
不會允許自由選擇要不要使用動態攝影機,因為這樣會把運算工作全部扔到伺服器端。
如果說允許自由選擇,那視角會是釘死的。

- whether your ammorack is full of shells or not (whether you loaded all the
shells) has no effect on tank characteristics (doesn’t limit movement like
the weight does). This is intentional, so that people wouldn’t go into
battle with only a few shells and then screw their team by running around
with no ammo
車上的彈藥量不影響任何性能,這是為了避免有些蠢貨只帶幾顆砲彈玩飆車

- it’s possible that one of the upcoming patches will contain something to
improve the account security (no details yet)
未來某一版會加強帳號安全措施(暫時沒細節)

- worldoftanks.ru portal is visited by less than 1 percent of active players
會看wot.ru的活躍玩家少於1%
(真的?)

- the gold consumables for 1/2 price can also an experiment (SS: which
probably means that if it is successful enough, it will stay)
高階消耗品半價可以視為某種實驗(SS:如果結果是成功的話,價格大概就會維持這樣)

- functions inspired by some mods will continue to be added, if the mods don’
t break the game that is
某些借鏡於mod的功能會加入,只要這些mod不會干擾遊戲本身

- further tier9/10 arty nerfs? “If necessery. We decide, what is necessery.”
T9/TXSPG進一步nerf?「我們決定需不需要」

- devs don’t consider the French premium arty (LeFH) to be directly nerfed,
it won’t be possible to sell it for gold – as for mechanism changes (such
as accuracy for arties, or the lower 105mm HEAT penetration), those affect
more vehicles than just the LeFH, that’s why they are not considered direct
nerfs
開發組認為lefh 18B2並沒有被特別nerf,影響表現的機制(彈著點、105HEAT)對其他車
都有效,所以不退錢。

- Storm states that the sounds of impact were even more “bland” in real
life, it’s not like the tank was supposed to “ring” like a bell
Storm表示真實世界中被命中的聲音是很多聲音的混合,不像遊戲裡面就鏘一聲。

- the mechanism of bush camo was not changed from 0.8.5
樹叢給予的隱蔽和8.5一樣沒有變動

- no rebalances of light tanks (in connection with the new tier 9/10 arties)
are planned
不打算相應於SPG來重新平衡LT

- the E-100 turret moving, that was deemed “too much” earlier will be
eventually revisited, but it has very, very low priority
總之毛子承認他們把E100的砲塔挪太前面了,但是調回去的優先順序很低

- in 0.8.6, second ricochet of a shell is still impossible
8.6砲彈還是有可能連續彈兩次

- the developers are tracking the effect of various game changes on the
amount of people buying gold
製作組在追蹤遊戲更動對於金幣銷量的影響

- apparently, there was a second Superpershing historical variant, but the
developers decided to implement the one, which they had more data on
史實上似乎有兩種超潘,但是製作組選擇做資料比較多的那種

- the loader perk Adrenaline Rush 10 percent HP threshold won’t be increased
腎上腺素爆發的10%血量發動標準不會改

- according to SerB, the fact that the tank disappears one second after it is
lit up can happen, it’s neither a bug, nor a change in 0.8.6
SerB表示敵車在點亮後1秒就不見是有可能的,這不是bug也不是8.6的新內容

- the “tasks” on test server (SS: you know, the thing where you did recieve
ridiculously high rewards for god knows what) was just an experiment
PT上的任務系統只是測試性質

- apparently, voting (about WG matters) in the game won’t be implemented
不會實施遊戲中投票

- the ability to freeze accounts (including the run of premium account, “
vacation mode”) will not be available anytime soon – and if it comes in the
future, it will be very limited. Freezing only the premium time without
freezing the account itself is not even considered
短時間內不會有暫時凍結帳號(假期模式之類的)功能,也不會有只凍結P帳時間的功能


- currently, multi-level water (SS: as in, lakes at various heights, cascades
etc.) is technically possible, but it won’t come soon
多層水體(例如說多層小瀑布之類的)技術上可行,但是不會在短期內開發


- Black Prince armor wasn’t changed in 0.8.6
BP的裝甲在8.6沒改過

- Storm states that when it comes to vehicle balance and gameplay, the “
rock-paper-scissors” principle still remains, just that there are two
triangles now (HT-MT-TD and HT-arty-LT) and some of the vehicles are not as
firmly belonging to one group as two years before
Storm表示以遊戲平衡來說是剪刀石頭布的相剋關係,但是有兩組(HT-MT-TD和HT-SPG-LT)
,某些車和2年前的狀況不一樣,不一定屬於哪個相剋關係。

- developers are aware of the various fan-made trees, they have been
corresponding with some sensible discussion participants from the threads
dedicated to these fan-made trees. On this, SerB states that players in
general have little authentic info on Japanese tech
製作組會關注各式各樣的玩家自製科技樹,他們也會和討論中有真材實料的玩家互動
(可以看NA的兩版JP科技樹/以色列科技樹和EU的瑞典科技樹,都很經典)。
SerB順帶表示JP線討論中玩家並沒有提出太多可信的資料。


- Murazor’s (SS: a popular WoT Russian blogger) opinion is apparently not
more important to devs than the opinions of other players (SS: parallels can
be drawn here with SOME EU/US players, who think they influence WG at every
step)
Murazor(RU一個很受歡迎的blogger)的意見不比普通玩家重要
(SS表示各個伺服器都一樣,某些人因為(戰績很好、在大公會etc)某些原因覺得WG得聽他
們的)
(garbad就是個例子)

- the “sell this tank for gold” function will be available only in very
limited cases when the vehicle characteristics will change significantly,
definitely not a standard option
退金幣只會是特例,不會作為常態功能

- the top Conqueror turret is balanced as it is apparently (SS: a player was
complaining that it is actually worse than the stock turret in some aspects,
SerB stated that one has to take into account the armor slope and the fact it
can carry a more powerful gun)
征服者的第二個砲塔在平衡性上沒問題(玩家抱怨比白板砲塔還爛,SerB表示裝甲要連
角度一起算,同時只有conqueror Mk.2 可以裝L1A1)

- Soviet D-5T-85BM has 10 ROF on T-34/85, 11,11 ROF on T-43 and 10,53 ROF on
T-44, apparently this is intentional
D-5T85BM在不同車上有不同射速是故意的,包含T44比T43慢也是

- SerB states that skill MM based on some statistics (doesn’t matter what
statistics) is technically possible (SS: it will not happen)
SerB表示依照某些數據做技術分房是可能的(不會實施就是了,外加我也不懂為什麼有人
想要技術分房,整天和SIMP、G或是ANVIL的玩家玩根本破壞遊戲體驗)


- “expert” medals (SS: not sure how they are called in english, master?) do
not take premium tanks into account, because some premium tanks are
practically impossible to meet in randoms
expert成就不包含金幣車,因為某些金幣車超級稀有(例如說不四不五之類的,我只看過
兩次)


- the 0.8.6 premium shells for the Konisch gun were “sold” automatically
during the patch implementation, because the developers wanted to nerf them,
added them to the automatic sell list and in the end didn’t nerf them after
all
8.6的konisch金彈會自動賣出,因為開發組原本想nerf,但是最後沒動作
(我靠,我的倉庫裡面有接近三千發,如果是原價退回的話會多出六百萬)

- open-topped vehicles have better viewrange than other vehicles of their
class (!)
開頂式車輛的視野比同階任何車都好

- some idiot made a video with him using illegal mods and posted it in the
developer thread. Made SerB happy, apparently
某個蠢蛋裝了違法的mod還把影片貼到開發組串,SerB表示潮爽的

- SerB states that as far as he knows, the side mesh screens on Panzer IV
Schmalturm do not work as spaced armor, it’s possible they will be added,
when all the models will are reworked
SerB表示據他所知四號窄砲塔型的鐵絲網側裙不是間隙裝甲,不過在所有戰車模型重製
的時候可能會加入。

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◆ From: 36.231.143.87
IKAFIRE     :喔好恐怖喔1F 06/20 01:51
korsg       :T58 Heavy聽起來好誘人2F 06/20 01:53
zmcef       :所以現在要不要收購Konisch的金彈呢...3F 06/20 01:55
hemisofia   :喔好恐怖喔4F 06/20 02:03
acebruce    :喔好恐怖喔5F 06/20 02:05
Kane1911    :恐怖喔........司馬中原調6F 06/20 02:07
splong      :How terrible…7F 06/20 02:09
lex65536    :好有個性XD8F 06/20 02:12
AxelSergei  :喔好恐怖喔9F 06/20 02:21
jackilee    :退彈"動"畫    感謝翻譯  好長喔XD10F 06/20 02:22
※ 編輯: hsinhanchu      來自: 36.231.143.87        (06/20 02:24)
zick0704    :現在買只是原價退回~沒意思啊!之前半價購入的就賺1筆11F 06/20 02:27
forraykrader:喔好恐怖喔12F 06/20 02:35
molukino    :喔好恐怖喔13F 06/20 03:00
windycat    :14頁 應該是"單顆砲彈還是不可能彈第二次"14F 06/20 04:54
hitlerx     :喔好恐怖喔15F 06/20 06:08
OnlyTD      :.....等等!?  之後我的88虎要面對T9 SPG嗎!?16F 06/20 08:15
OnlyTD      :5v5純砲兵分房wwwwwwwwww
OnlyTD      :...什麼假HT真MT  連SerB都這樣認為了啊!?
et134226    :喔好恐怖喔19F 06/20 08:23
GALGUN      :翻譯辛苦了20F 06/20 08:41
NineGon     :翻譯得很有趣21F 06/20 08:57
victor0lynn :穿甲指示器王力宏那個嗎22F 06/20 09:19
victor0lynn :T58只有6發?
victor0lynn :不是說不做真實世界嗎????自打喔?
victor0lynn :干涉到錢才會積極
victor0lynn :某些借鏡(抄襲)於mod的功能會加入
victor0lynn :Storm表示真實世界中被命中的聲音是很多聲音的混合
victor0lynn :WIDID 居然沒接這句?
victor0lynn :彈兩次???可以彈一次就消失算了嗎?彈到隊友很哭哭
korsg       :T58那個應該是指一個彈夾裝有6發155砲彈30F 06/20 09:39
korsg       :實際能帶幾發砲彈就不知道哩
korsg       :一輪6發155砲轟下去我看老鼠也差不多升天哩
lsslss      :32發33F 06/20 10:20
fransice7   :喔好恐怖喔34F 06/20 12:45
opmikoto    :身為一個客服 我也好想跟他一樣跟那些嘴砲玩家說35F 06/20 12:52
opmikoto    :喔好恐怖喔
victor0lynn :完來是彈頰!!!6發155???哪有彈頰這麼大的!!!!!37F 06/20 13:57
lsslss      :所以難產終止計畫阿...38F 06/20 14:19
donkilu     :Serb又搬出WIDID了...39F 06/20 19:29
ken80117    :基本上Serb不是客服,以他職位大可不必回答QA40F 06/20 21:16
donkilu     :我覺得他是為了troll才願意回答問題的=w=41F 06/20 23:01
lsslss      :可能一天不嘲諷會睡不著 (?42F 06/21 00:47

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