看板 China作者 fengkuang (新使用者)
時間 2014年08月13日 Wed. AM 12:30:11
“为什么是中国？很多原因，新兴的超级力量，强大的军事，蓬勃的经济，强力的政府，还有漂亮的中国女孩。”这位少年还表示：“我爱好和平，但不是以 很多人想象的那种方式。我想捍卫和平，在必要的时候，我会身背长枪，向我的至爱永别。”他的心愿能实现吗？请看网民Aville对主贴和评论的翻译（因转 载多年前网民的翻译，包括PLA应为“中国人民解放军”等译法未加改动）：
Could non-chinese join PLA?
As seen in topic, my porblem is that I wish to know would it be possible for non-chinese citizen to join PLà? This not a joke, I′m talking dead-serious about this.
In my short 5 year study study of the PLA the answer is no
The answer can be found in this link below.
Thank you for your answer. But, would it be then possible if I would give up my old citizenship and gain chinese citizenship?
Nope..Someone asked that question previously..several years ago in fact. Perhaps in this thread or in theold ez board days of 5 years ago.
You have to be Chinese citizen of the Peoples Republic of China to join the PLA. All others need not apply.
You >>> PLA soldier <<<cannot join! Join the Army in your home country would be your best bet..
edit 5 minutes later…
Let’s see as near as I figure you live in Finland and are only 15 years old according to your profile. So in most countries you have to be 17 or 18 to join the military. So just wait until then.
There’s always the Legion Etrangere
What about Chinese turned into American citizen and then to Chinese citizen?
I should have stated a natural born Chinese citizen.
answer is no people not even Hong Kong or Macau people are allowed to join the PLA
Thank you! No Tibetans..No Mongolians none of the non racially Chinese people in western China or anywhere else in China. No foreigners.
You have to be a Chinese person born in China. Period.
Tibetans & Mongolians & Uyghuｒs are doing service in PLA. If they are chinese citizen.
I was working in China, and I watched CCTV7 regularly. There was a Uyghu girl in PLA medical unit going round villages giving health aid. I remember she was an officer but I forgot her rank.
There are also many non-Han PLA soldiers in Inner Mongolia and Guangxi provinces. Zhuan people in Guangxi are non-Han Chinese.
But I was born in China! I just got my citizenship here for college .
Although people from Hong Kong and Macau are legally Chinese citizen, they do have different passport.
Sorry but this claim is not true, it’s not unusual for Chinese minorities to serve in PLA:
Here’s an example of an Uygur officer:
That’s not true. In the history of PLA, there were many people from other countries, including USA, Canada, and India joined PLA. In fact two of the most famous WWII era military doctors were Canadian and Indian.
bd popeye 你说的不对，在解放军历史上，有很多人是来自外国的，包括美国，加拿大，印度等，实际上，（中国）抗日战争中最出名的两位军医，一个来自加拿大，一个来自印度。
Today you could see Tibetan, Mongolian, Korean and Urger soldiers in uniforms in different ranks.
Hmm…this is interesting. Where did you hear that non racially Chinese people cannot join the PLA? CCTV-7 has showed Tibetans in PLA a couple months ago and you can watch those on youtube. Some are serving in the Tibetan areas and some outside. Uyghurs have been shown also.
According to wiki, a ethnic Korean Zhao Nanqi(Cho Namgi) was a 3 star general(1988) and a former director and party secretary of the PLA so it’s not like ethnic minorities can’t rise to high ranks either.
Ooppss my bad Thanks for that information! I was unaware of that.
OKey, thank you for your answer everyone. I have question, and that comes now: If I would move to China, and gain citizenship of Peoples Republic of China, would it be then possible for me to join PLA?
Nope..not as far as I know. But I could be wrong…but I don’t think so.
Question for you PLA. In our forum here and our sister site sinodefence.com there are hundreds and hundreds of pictuces of PLA soldiers. Thousands proabaly…
Since you are from Finland..May I ask are you white? That is my assumption. So if you check out photos of the PLA have you evere seen a white westerner in the uniform of the PLA? Ever??? Just asking.
Yes, I′m white western, and yes, I have never seen any white people in PLA uniform. That is the reason why I′m asking this from you.
From my observation while in China, I have noticed that,
The recruitment exercise starts with a large red banner hung up by local village or town government. At the same time local TV will broadcast the time, place, age and document requirements. (In Shenzhen, almost every town has its own TV broadcasting control).
I only witnessed one recruitment exercise in the same village which I stayed for 7 years. I could have missed a few though. Also, may be because the PLA was cutting down its size during those years, so less recruitments.
An important documrnt is Residence Card 户口issued by Public Security Bureau. Only mainland Chinese citizens have this document, Hongkong and Macau people don’t have this as they are ruled under different laws. Without this residence card, you have no way of getting in PLA. (Residence card is not ID card, fake ID cards were easy to get but not residence cards).
Interview was in collaboration with local town government. I think they want to acertain the personal information and check for crime records, and also priority will be given to member of communist party.
To Finn McCool
Joinging PLA is a family honour in China nowadays. There is a saying in China that you get paid joining army in foreign countries but you have to pay to joing the PLA.
Honor is something all face loving Chinese treasured. Also they get trained in PLA for various skill like driving, engine repairs etc. Other benifits like vocational traning and job placement after discharge, pirority in getting railway tickets, special rates hotels for servicemen all over China.
People in poor villages are living in extreme hard conditions, and joining PLA and getting trained is a dream to many.
Weel, I did already know that cost of getting Chinas citizenship is to give up old citizenship. But, still, it would be the cost of joining the PLA. Yes, I′m seriously thinking about joining the Chinas army.
Joining the PLA has many social benefits when you retire as a veteran, and you can learn many skills that may be helpful in finding a job in an urban center later on. You get a decent salary and is free from housing and living expenses.
Another bonus is that since China is at peace and is in no hurry to fight wars everywhere, you don’t really have a chance of getting killed (accidents aside but those are present in civi life as well). This makes the army a safe job and a good one.
You do realized that as a foreigner, china doesn’t give out its citizenship easily. It’s not like Canada where you will get one if you stay for x number of years. Last time I heard from the news was that China only grants citizenship to distinguished individuals who made an impact for a better China.
I understand that Chinese citizenship is hard to get. If they ask reason, I say that I want to join PLA, and you know, fresh meat for the grindery?
So, the conclusion: So, it is possible for western men to join PLA, if they move to China first and gain citizenship. What comes to the other discussion, good mens does become soldiers. If not, this world would be much more darker place to live.
So far, relations between Finland and China have been good. That′s why I don′t think that China would consider me as security risk, or in any other way of trouble-causing men. Only thing that might cause that sort of thinking would be that I wan′t join PLA.
PLA Soldier. I have some questions for you.
Why do you want to join the PLA? And when you become of age why don’t you join the Finnish armed forces? Isn’t there conscription in Finland? Thanks!
PLA Soldier, I’m afraid that kw64 is painting an overly optimistic and unrealistic picture of what you’d be facing in trying to join the PLA. I think it’s important to be realistic even if you (for some reason) really wish this could happen.
The first thing would be to move to China. Now you can’t just do that on a whim. You need to either be a student there or have a job there. Being a student isn’t helpful because when you finish your studies you’re off – at best it would buy you time.
In regards to work, unless you have some particular skills and qualifications that China needs you’re not going to get a job, other than maybe teaching English as a foreign language and that’s no good long-term career. It’s not stable because you can be laid off in the blink of an eye and frequently doesn’t pay all that well. Certainly it won’t let you get permanent residency.
Even if you get a great job, marry a Chinese woman and get permanent residency, you’re still highly unlikely to get an offer of nationality. The foreigners who get Chinese passports are usually rich businessmen who contribute to the Chinese economy and get friendly with powerful people.
But let’s say you get a great job, marry a Chinese woman, get permanent residency, make great friends with people who decide on nationality applications and then an offer of nationality. That would take so long you’d probably be too old to join the PLA anyway!
You also need to realise that China doesn’t allow dual nationality, so you’d have to give up your Finnish citizenship and passport. You’d need a visa to travel to anywhere in Europe, even your home. Are you sure you’d want that?
Put it like this. If you want to go to China, live and work there, good luck. But you need a plan before you go as to what you’re going to do there, otherwise I think you’ll be unhappy. Realistically joining the PLA is not going to happen, so you will need an alternative line of work. Just remember that the Chinese job market is very competitive.
Good reasons. But since you have not been to China to experience whether you like it there or not (I am pretty sure you will), you had better move there to study/work before you make the decision to join the PLA. I think you are likely to change your mind and turn to another profession, when you are more mature.
Moving to China should be easy. Nowadays foreigners are common in the developed cities of China (Tier one cities, namely Shanghai, Beijing, Shenzhen, Guangzhou) and they are very popular, especially if you are white and if you have good people skills/connections. Building relationships and making friends with people during your study/work there is VERY important, you can get a lot of opportunities if people like you and introduce you to those who make decisions.
Joining the PLA in China is a dream for many in the less developed areas, but not for those already have good living standard. The life and training in PLA, in fact most armies are very tough for newbies, and the living standard of PLA may be far worse than Finnish army’s, for that I do not think joining PLA as a regular newbie would be a good idea for many people. As you said ‘chinese girls are beatifull’ I think you would prefer a career you are able to meet those girls more often.
对于生活在欠发达地区的人们来说，参军是个不错的选择，但对于富裕地区的人们而言，就不是这种情况了，在PLA中的生活，受训，事实上和其他国家军 队一样，对新兵都是相当苛刻的，而且PLA的生活标准很可能远赶不上芬兰军队，所以我说，在PLA中当个新兵蛋子对很多人来说，并不是个好主意。至于你说 “中国的姑娘们很漂亮”，我想你还是希望找个能频繁接触女孩的职业吧。
I would suggest you get a good education background first from western countries and get a job in one of the tier 1 cities in maniland China, Hong Kong or Macau to experience the lifestyle and build connections as well as explore opportunities. Or if you are sure you want to join the armed force, apply for a degree in one of the military academies in China you would be valued by most armed forces in the world when you graduate, for your unique background, and you can decide to get Chinese citizenship and join the PLA as a officer or join other armed forces. I am not sure how hard it is for foreigners to apply for military academies but the requirements are surprisingly low for foreigners in the most reputed universities in China, because the top universities are starving for foreign students and they want to be more international. So if you don’t get a place in military academy, getting into Tsinghua University/ Beijing University would be a good alternative and would make your career path more flexible.
我会建议你，先在西方接受一个良好的教育，然后在我说的那些中国大陆的大城市加上香港，澳门里面找份工作，适应那里的生活，建立关系网，并寻找机 会。如果你已决定参军，就在中国的军事院校里面申请个学位读读，在毕业之时，你会因为独一无二的背景，得到世界上绝大多数的军事机构赏识，那个时候再决定 是获得中国国籍加入PLA成为一名解放军军官还是到其他国家参军。我不清楚一个外国人去申请读军事院校会有多难，但是外国人申请中国其他的一些重点大学的 门槛相当低，因为这些大学想变得国际化，对国外学生求贤若渴，所以如果你没申上独立的军事院校，去读北大清华会是个不错的备用选择（无语啊）。这样，你的 职业规划会更具灵活性。
It would be easier to get into Harvard or Stanford…. Those are the two toughest schools in the world to get into. EVERYONE in China aspires to those two universities.
That’s true for Chinese students. Not the case at all for foreign students, they do not need to be involved in the Chinese high school exams and they are judged differently.
It’s no problem!
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