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作者 muse87131 (qwertyuiop)
標題 [新聞]教廷和中國協商遭教徒反彈 警告恐引發分裂
時間 Sat Feb 17 17:39:27 2018


1.媒體來源:
Wahington Post

2.完整新聞標題:
Catholics warn of church schism if Vatican makes a deal with China

教廷和中國協商遭教徒反彈 警告恐引發分裂

3.完整新聞內文:
BEIJING - A group of influential Catholics published an open letter Monday to express their shock and disappointment about a report that the Vatican could soon reach a deal with the Chinese government, warning that it could create a schism in the church in China.

傳聞梵蒂岡和中國政府即將達成協議,一群天主教領袖於本週一撰寫公開信對此表達震驚與失望,並警告教廷,一旦和中國達成協議,教會可能出現分裂。

The Holy See has been in negotiations for several years with the Chinese Communist Party and is now believed to be close to an agreement over the appointment of bishops in China.

教廷和中共談判早已進行多年,現在傳聞快達成協議了,主教任命問題即將有解。

That agreement, under which responsibility for the appointment of bishops would probably be shared between the Vatican and the government, could pave the way for the eventual reestablishment of diplomatic relations between China and the Vatican, cut in 1951. The deal is also expected to confer Vatican recognition on seven state-appointed bishops, who had been excommunicated by previous popes.

本協議規定,未來主教任命將由梵蒂岡和中國政府共同負責,也代表未來中梵建交有譜,有望結束長達68年的斷交。另外,先前中國政府擅自任命了七位主教,不受教廷承認,還遭前幾任教宗逐出教會,現在梵蒂岡將根據本協議承認這七位主教的合法地位。

But 15 leading Catholics, many of them from Hong Kong, have written to bishops all over the world arguing that the Chinese government should play no role in the selection of bishops. The group argued that the moral integrity of the seven "illicit" bishops was questionable.

然而與此同時,15位天主教領袖,大部分是香港人,卻撰寫公開信給全球主教,堅持中國政府不得參與主教遴選過程,並針對七位「非法」主教的道德操守提出質疑。

"They do not have the trust of the faithful, and have never repented publicly," they wrote. "If they were to be recognized as legitimate, the faithful in Greater China would be plunged into confusion and pain, and schism would be created in the Church in China."

信中寫道:「這七位主教不受天主教徒信任,而且從來沒有公開懺悔過。如果這七位主教獲得教廷合法承認,將對華人天主教會造成莫大傷害,甚至引發中國教會分裂。」

The 15 Catholics include university professors, lecturers, researchers, human rights activists and lawyers. They warned that a deal with the Chinese government could do irreparable harm and that recent regulations put into effect this month allow for even greater government scrutiny over religion in China.

起筆的十五位天主教徒中,有大學教授、老師、研究院、維權人士和律師等,他們警告和中國政府協商所造成的傷害將無法抹滅,再加上中國政府近期又通過法令,對境內宗教實施嚴格控管。

The Communist Party in China, under the leadership of President Xi Jinping, has repeatedly destroyed crosses and churches, while the state-backed China Patriotic Catholic Association maintains its heavy-handed control over the church, they said.

他們表示,中共在習近平的領導下嚴加打擊教會,而且教會都受到官方支持的中國天主教愛國會的嚴格管控。

In his keynote speech to a major Communist Party Congress in  October, Xi underlined that the religion in China must also be "Chinese in orientation" and guided by the Communist Party to adapt to socialist society.

習近平在十月中共十九大報告中提到要「堅持我國宗教中國化」,而且宗教必須接受中國共產黨的領導,積極配合社會主義路線。

The Catholics complained that religious persecution has never stopped in China and warned that they could not see any possibility that it would, even if a deal were reached.

撰文的天主教徒指出,中國政府不斷進行宗教迫害,就算達成協議,也不會善罷甘休。

"We are worried that the agreement would not only fail to guarantee the limited freedom desired by the Church, but also damage the Church's holiness, catholicity, and apostolicity, and deal a blow to the Church's moral power," they wrote.

信中寫道:「我們擔心,本協議非但無法保證教會自由,更是會對教會至聖、至公、使徒所傳的地位造成損害。」

"We earnestly ask you, with the love on the people of God, appeal to the Holy See: Please rethink the current agreement, and stop making an irreversible and regrettable mistake."

「以上帝的愛,誠心懇求教廷懸崖勒馬,三思而後行。」

Senior Vatican officials argue that any deal would help Catholics in China practice and evangelize their faith. There are about 10 million Catholics in China, but their numbers are dwarfed by the fast-growing number of Protestants, and some officials hope a deal could help Catholicism keep pace.

另一方面,梵蒂岡高階官員則表示,達成協議的話,就能夠幫助中國天主教徒的信仰,傳教也能更順利。

But retired Hong Kong cardinal Joseph Zen has been at the forefront of those arguing that a deal with a "totalitarian" regime would be immoral and a sellout.

然而,前任樞機主教陳日君卻帶頭極力反對,認為和極權政府協商乃是敗壞道德、出賣信仰。



4.完整新聞連結 (或短網址):
https://goo.gl/wBhNS8

5.備註:

雖然是五天前的新聞,但我看八卦板沒什麼貼,我就翻譯貼出來了

和台灣也是切身相關啦

推一下啦

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HELLDIVER: 想也知道支那賤畜共產黨國會做出什麼事1F 02/17 17:40
fffffff4: 推翻譯2F 02/17 17:40
dufflin: 一梵各表~3F 02/17 17:40
hellwize: 東正教:安安4F 02/17 17:42
windyyw: 推翻譯5F 02/17 17:43
joumay: 來個 中正教  中國正教好了6F 02/17 17:43
HELLDIVER: 可以保證到時這些"主教"全都是支那安插的眼線7F 02/17 17:43
SRNOB: 天主教主都要下去添大大 厲害惹8F 02/17 17:45
s1000650: 中國男女混雙大亂鬥10F 02/17 17:46
yeap193: 上帝都要屈服共產黨了?11F 02/17 17:51
carlos159357: 十字軍內鬥肯定很刺激12F 02/17 17:52
carlos159357: 不過哪天習大大泰山封禪我也不意外
erc: 感謝翻譯14F 02/17 17:57
cww7911: 推翻譯15F 02/17 18:02
kimicino: 推翻譯16F 02/17 18:03
jetalpha: 推翻譯17F 02/17 18:12
Seifer601: 還是共產黨厲害  讓神棍現形 宗教只是騙18F 02/17 18:26
naminono: 推翻譯19F 02/17 18:28
HuckleberryF: 教廷表示 不爽不要信20F 02/17 18:30
Areso: Wahington Post21F 02/17 18:30
TaiwanHero: 梵蒂岡跟以前國共合作或現在馬那群人一樣吧 以為接觸22F 02/17 18:41
TaiwanHero: 妥協就能讓自己事業有所進展 下場都是被吃乾抹淨的份
blue155305: 好 我推24F 02/17 19:00
Anni3: 謝翻譯25F 02/17 19:19
p907018: 推26F 02/17 19:21
ueu966: 推27F 02/17 19:23
tw2000: 謝翻譯28F 02/17 19:38
aja1008 
aja1008: 智障天主教29F 02/17 19:42
kevin015015: 唉30F 02/17 20:04
rayonwu: 高調31F 02/17 20:09
tuna0214: 推32F 02/17 21:23
goenitzx: 中國的目標是把國內的天主教改造成中共的天主教 梵諦岡33F 02/17 22:19
goenitzx: 妥協會分裂 不妥協照樣會分裂 中國內天主教徒一樣姓黨
yannjiunlin: 感謝翻譯~但這個叫縱被習維尼肛到甚麼爛事都幹得出來35F 02/18 00:32
scarfman: 推36F 02/18 01:22
sank: 宗教終究還是皇帝的狗,千百年來都一樣37F 02/18 16:55
Trunks: 推翻譯38F 02/18 21:22

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