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標題 [爆卦] 經濟學人也報導反服事件了
時間 Fri Mar 21 03:56:22 2014


3/20日 經濟學人報導台灣學生反服事件

該報導有上首頁: http://i.imgur.com/evQGyzg.png

http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2014/03/politics-taiwan
Politics in Taiwan: Students in the house | The Economist
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NEARLY three days into their occupation of the debating chamber of the Legislative Yuan, Taiwan’s parliament, in Taipei, dozens of activists, mostly students, show... ...

 

Politics in Taiwan
Students in the house
Mar 20th 2014, 11:02 by Banyan | TAIPEI


NEARLY three days into their occupation of the debating chamber of the
Legislative Yuan, Taiwan's parliament, in Taipei, dozens of activists, mostly
students, show no sign of flagging. They broke in on Tuesday evening, March
18th, and resisted attempts by the police to evict them overnight. Since
then, a stand-off has persisted. The police are stopping new arrivals from
joining them, but allow in food and water. The protesters include a team of
white-coated medics. They look well settled.

Three legislators from the main opposition, the Democratic Progressive Party
(DPP), started 70-hour hunger-strikes just before the occupation. They are
taking eight-hour shifts in the parliament to afford the protesters extra
protection—to shift the students, the police will also have to manhandle the
legislators.

Outside, a crowd of several hundred ignores the drizzle to listen to speeches
and songs, wave artificial sunflowers, and shout denunciations of the
government and of Taiwan's president, Ma Ying-jeou.

The occupation was billed as lasting 120 hours, to block a plenary
parliamentary session on Friday 21st March, and to provide a deadline for the
government to meet the protesters' demands. These are three-fold: they want
Mr Ma to come to the chamber himself to apologise for the way in which his
party pushed an agreement on opening up services trade with China through
parliament on Monday (available here, in Chinese); they also want the
parliamentary speaker, Wang Jin-pyng (who happens to be a rival to Mr Ma in
the ruling party, the Kuomintang, or KMT ) to come to pay his respects; and
they want legislation passed to institutionalise parliament's right to
scrutinise such agreements item by item.

The DPP insists the students are acting on their own initiative. But it is
supporting their protest, which it believes is tapping a rich vein of
discontent with the government, focusing on the services-trade agreement.

The sit-in was provoked by what the DPP sees as the KMT's breaking of its
promise to allow a parliamentary committee to review the agreement clause by
clause. At a press conference on March 20th, the DPP's chairman, Su
Tseng-chang, portrayed this as a 「key moment」 for Taiwan's
quarter-century-old democracy, which he said the party would 「do whatever it
takes」 to protect.

In less lofty terms, the DPP seems to have spotted an opportunity to exploit
the unpopularity of a man they call 「a 9% president」—a reference to the
low point Mr Ma's approval rating fell to last year in opinion polls—on an
issue where they think he is weak. With local elections in December and a new
presidential contest due in 2016, when Mr Ma will have to stand down, the DPP
seems to think it has the KMT on the run.

Improving relations with China has been a central theme of Mr Ma's presidency
since he took office in 2008. In 2010 China and Taiwan signed the Economic
Co-operation Framework Agreement (ECFA), significantly boosting cross-strait
ties. The services agreement, signed last June, is part of the effort to
implement that framework.

At the press conference, Mr Su spoke under a banner reading: 「Demand
substantial review; restart negotiations with China.」 The DPP argues the
agreement will hurt small businesses on Taiwan and is lopsided in some of its
market-opening measures. But also, the party's roots are in the movement that
wants Taiwan to declare formal independence from China; it worries about
Taiwan's becoming too dependent economically on the mainland. Hsiao Bi-khim,
one of the DPP hunger-strikers, thinks most people on Taiwan are behind it on
this, since they have yet to see the benefits they were promised from ECFA.
The economy is still, by local standards, sluggish.

For his part, Mr Ma may be thinking about his legacy, and wanting to use his
remaining years in power to make a breakthrough in relations with China. Last
month Nanjing in China played host to the first formal meeting between
ministers from China and Taiwan in their government capacities since the end
of the civil war in 1949 formalised the division. A next step would be a
summit between Mr Ma and China's president, Xi Jinping. Hopes that the
Asia-Pacific Economic Co-operation summit in Beijing this autumn might
provide an opportunity are fading. But it would be easier to achieve a
meeting elsewhere if the implementation of ECFA were going well.

In the shorter term, however, Mr Ma has a nasty local problem. The students
say they will not leave after their five-day deadline if their demands have
not been met; and they may take their 「occupy」 strategy to other targets:
Mr Ma's own office, for example.

It is already highly unusual for a government to have tolerated the seizure
of parliament by protesters for so long. But, fearful of the ugly headlines
using force against peaceful students would attract, it does not have many
easy options.


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maxxV3:Students in the house是什麼意思?  學生在房子裡?26F 03/21 03:59
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cul287:101197 這篇#1JAmFqu3Y32F 03/21 03:59
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solidmiss:        有中文的嗎
elle:說得太好了                                   可惜我看不懂38F 03/21 04:00
pasaword:我可以快速我流翻譯丟上來  lol39F 03/21 04:00
LM10:翻譯:學生佔領立法院  馬宗痛遲遲不願承認自己是bumbler!40F 03/21 04:00
SuccubusGirl:house指國會吧。好像有上下議院的國家很常用這字41F 03/21 04:00
Seraphy:這篇算中肯 平鋪直敘42F 03/21 04:00
choulu:英語的 NHK 新聞 (在美國有線電視網可看到) 也有報, 不過43F 03/21 04:00
bettyshinn:趕快推 想法和我一樣44F 03/21 04:00
orfan:看得懂但不會翻...丟棒給神人了45F 03/21 04:01
TaipeiLeo:經濟學人立場本來就比較右派46F 03/21 04:01
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cul287:http://goo.gl/I0dJmA 翻譯52F 03/21 04:01
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disremember:幫高調55F 03/21 04:01
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cvbn7910:內文其實沒講到 KMT強渡關山 很客觀的陳述63F 03/21 04:04
demitri:花很多篇幅在講DDP 可是馬英九的違法問題輕輕帶過?64F 03/21 04:05
demitri:哪裡客觀? 違法強渡關山這才是重點吧
pasaword:他們如果沒有收到這麼細的資料他們也寫不出來啊 -_-66F 03/21 04:06
silentence:純粹不懂台灣的立法程序哪裡出問題吧67F 03/21 04:07
lemondrink:經濟學人其實沒看懂整件事情耶68F 03/21 04:09
demitri:CNN都講出來了啊 這篇完全在講DDP對這事的態度69F 03/21 04:09
IdleBee:反服的人兩成都不到...好可憐呀...XD70F 03/21 04:09
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demitri:這篇也沒講到為什麼大家反應這麼激烈72F 03/21 04:10
Seraphy:三點訴求那段有輕輕帶過上述強渡關山部分73F 03/21 04:11
Seraphy:逐條審議被打破也有在蘇貞昌那幾段講到
Seraphy:整體看起來沒有偏頗
cvbn7910:外國人看服貿而已,還是得靠自己XD76F 03/21 04:15
demitri:對,但是本文只強調這是加強兩岸關係的東西 並未講到77F 03/21 04:20
demitri:一般人看服貿的點  和她未來對台灣可能產生的衝擊
demitri:然後講到馬的態度只說他想當兩岸的調人的歷史定位
demitri:乍聽非常正面毫無問題 這篇過於平舖直述而且重點錯誤
finetea:經濟學人是自由貿易的信仰者,不意外81F 03/21 04:37
chataulait:這篇我不覺得寫得好耶,連一些基本事實都有錯...82F 03/21 04:58
wuliaude:這篇寫的很糟 希望最後printe edition不要用這篇83F 03/21 05:37
Tenging:經濟學人也懂拔草測風向84F 03/21 05:49
demitri:這篇大概含了很多中國觀點吧85F 03/21 06:05
faxy:.......86F 03/21 07:28
reallocust:看久了經濟學人會了解這家的信仰一直都是完全開放的自87F 03/21 08:10
reallocust:由經濟,不意外

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