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作者 JingP (Jing)
標題 Re: [問卦] 2016年一群醫生被謀殺?
時間 Wed Mar 22 04:57:22 2017


安安各位帥哥美女肥宅邊緣人

隨手找了一篇Reddit評論

深夜了看英文好累好想死

可以直接end看我總結

以下內容轉載自Reddit
https://goo.gl/fM0TpP

 

CR: falsescorpion


The article linked to by OP is to some fringe site that quotes that well-known
 bastion of serious investigative journalism, Neon Nettle. When you check out
proper news sites, Neon Nettle's story predictably falls apart.

Theresa Sievers was murdered by being beaten with a hammer. Three men (friends
 of her husband) were convicted of her murder and the last update I can find s
ays that a fourth is awaiting trial. Link to alleged vaccine research therefor
e conclusively excluded.
http://www.nbc-2.com/story/32340145/dr-teresa-sievers-murder-one-year-later
Dr. Teresa Sievers' murder: One year later - NBC-2.com WBBH News for Fort Myers, Cape Coral & Naples, Florida
[圖]
[圖]
One year ago on June 29th, Dr. Teresa Sievers was found dead in her Bonita Springs home. ...

 

Brad Fitzpatrick was a retired general practitioner, and nothing to do with al
ternative medicine. It's hard to believe he was investigating vaccines. He was
 74 years old. His car got stuck in a muddy field (at an unknown time, so mayb
e after dark) and he appears to have wandered off, taking his car keys with hi
m.
http://www.kpax.com/story/29573170/search-for-missing-doctor-continues-into-se
Search for missing doctor continues into second week - KPAX.com | Continuous News | Missoula & Western Montana
[圖]
Authorities are asking for help locating a doctor who's still not been found - and now been missing for two weeks. ...

 
cond-week

Jeffrey Whiteside disappeared after an argument with his wife. He had a histor
y of depression. He was later found with a gunshot wound to his chest. His own
 gun was discovered near his body. His death was officially ruled a suicide, a
nd no-one has challenged that ruling. He worked in pulmonary medicine, and it'
s hard to imagine he'd made any discovery concerning vaccines.
http://www.greenbaypressgazette.com/story/news/local/door-co/news/2015/08/18/d
r-jeffrey-whitesides-death-ruled-suicide/31931985/

(Sort of to its credit, Neon Nettle has this to say about Fitzpatrick and Whit
eside: "We cannot speculate as to how “alternative” these two doctors were,
if at all." Although it would have been to Neon Nettle's credit if it hadn't r
un such a shonky story in the first place.)

Neon Nettle also drags in three doctors and a lawyer who went missing together
 in that renowned haven of peace, tranquility and civil order that we all know
 as Mexico. These doctors certainly seem to have been murdered, but quite fran
kly so what.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/mexico-identifies-4-corpses-missing-doctors-lawyer-
155337437.html?ref=gs

Neon Nettle's story ends with a comment: "I have no idea if these three doctor
s [killed in Mexico] were “alternative” “holistic” or any info of them at
all at this time."

Final score: One solved murder; one solved suicide; one (apparently unsolved)
disappearance; three irrelevant murders. No connections to 'vaccine research'
in any of these cases.

Neon Nettle: Nil. And that's being generous.

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基本上這個評論就是在踢爆原文

他就是舉出幾個死者的死因根本沒關聯。被殺掉不是因為他們發現疫苗裡有致癌物質。

原文的'記者'把一些不相干的死者湊在一起說是因為vaccine被殺掉,有夠白癡這樣。

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以下是我自己的小小意見啦

此評論的可信度我也不是很清楚

畢竟電影小說看太多了,相信大家還是會稍微懷疑一下

不過值得一提的是

美國很多極保守教會會製造假新聞,找各種理由說服人不要打疫苗。

美國知識份子只要看到anti vaccination 等關鍵字加上這種conspiracy文章

就會直接將可信度扣到10%

川普當選以後這些教會的人士又更囂張了

他們常見手法是運用很多假新聞網站來傳播

仔細看會發現都是你沒聽過的媒體,跟內容農場有87%像。

基本上美國人已經見怪不怪

主流媒體也不會特別浪費時間去個別澄清查證每個陰謀小道消息

反而是著重在直接協助政府傳遞正確疫苗觀念上。

所以我猜這才是這麼聳動的內容卻沒有引起廣泛討論的主因。

有任何問題拜託不要兇狠打臉我QAQ

三更半夜沒心力多找幾篇reddit評論一一查證(看英文很累餒)

所以只隨手挑了一篇

有錯就不要對我森77

直接將正確的放上來吧

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tim121507: JP原來妳在用這個呀 難怪妳不見那麼久1F 03/22 04:58
想說不要浪費大家寶貴的時間當偵探
我來就好 嘻嘻
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剛剛0.02F 03/22 04:59
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沒有JK 只有最票釀的JP
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#難得認真一下不行膩
Nikon610: 安娜貝爾都這樣講 miss me?9F 03/22 05:03
a1865432e: 肥宅喝水那篇 嘻嘻10F 03/22 05:03
Nikon610: QQ11F 03/22 05:03
臭hank 還假裝肆窩 噁噁噁嘔嘔嘔嘔嘔     
※ 編輯: JingP (36.227.71.144), 03/22/2017 05:09:58
a1865432e: 阿哈哈哈哈哈 笑屎12F 03/22 05:07
JingP: 都沒人來窩這邊搶五樓 蠻失落的QQ13F 03/22 05:11
Nikon610: 那從窩開始!!五樓......14F 03/22 05:11
a1865432e: 蓋蓋15F 03/22 05:14
JingP: 蓋五樓超帥 嘻嘻16F 03/22 05:15
hiqiu: 認真推17F 03/22 05:15
Nikon610: 令人鼻酸......QQ18F 03/22 05:15
Generalpig: 我很帥19F 03/22 05:15
hiqiu: 不過為何要反對疫苗?20F 03/22 05:16
很多原因
宗教及不信任政府等等

https://m.commonhealth.com.tw/article/article.action?nid=61800
疫苗引發自閉症?一場騙局 - 康健雜誌148期
因為魏克菲爾德的造假報告,反疫苗浪潮從1998年蔓延到2010年,直到被醫藥記者揭發,但已造成許多無辜生命消逝。這場防疫災難,留下什麼教訓? ...

 
這篇可以看看

算是有解答到反疫苗的起因
不過後來很多異議人士藉此搭順風車收割的不少。

chivalry70: 我英文粉爛妳好厲害QQ
違反自然呀~21F 03/22 05:16
johnny3: 好像傳說疫苗會導致小兒麻痺還是啥的23F 03/22 05:16
chivalry70: 保險套墮胎同性戀變性人都是教會攻擊的點24F 03/22 05:17
a1865432e: 我也是 分開我還會一些 合起來通通空白了...25F 03/22 05:17
估狗翻譯小姐願意跟尼當朋友ㄛ
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睡不著豪無聊QQ26F 03/22 05:18
這裡有妹子缺lol伴唷~~
lebronlp097: 你也有正經的時候呢28F 03/22 05:19
窩平常很正經ㄉ喇
一切都肆誤會 嘻嘻
Chiehx: 原來是妳29F 03/22 05:27
尼豪尼豪 窩肆JP
尼肆誰
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謝謝帥腦公紅喜氣的簽到
tim121507: 廢物G軟 別人叫你簽到就來簽到 沒原則 嘖嘖31F 03/22 05:29
uke3458: g軟噁心= =  嗚嗚剛剛看ㄌ一下文章覺得英文退步好多32F 03/22 05:30
窩也只是大略看看而已QQ
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腦公太多紅惹
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tim121507: 尼欠肛484喇35F 03/22 05:31
Chiehx: 不告訴妳36F 03/22 05:44
沒關係 窩記得尼惹
下次一起搶五樓ㄅ
※ 編輯: JingP (36.227.71.144), 03/22/2017 05:46:42
likeyousmile: 美國聰明人多,容易被操弄的笨蛋更多。不然川普怎麼會選上37F 03/22 05:46
chivalry70: 妳哪裡正經過39F 03/22 05:50
JingP: 昨天呀 哼哼40F 03/22 05:52
hiqiu: 感謝原po :D41F 03/22 05:54
JingP: 不會不會 以後半夜一起加入搶五樓嘛42F 03/22 05:55
chivalry70: 也是昨天蠻正經的(僅有43F 03/22 06:08
JingP: 想說發個正經文來讓半夜手癢的大家推 嘻嘻44F 03/22 06:11
chivalry70: 不錯果然是厲害的孩子45F 03/22 06:14
paca0713: jp認
真發文給推46F 03/22 06:14
是paca耶~
跟你一樣偶爾要認真一下呀
paca0713: 媽的這些反疫苗的真的智障 之前還想辦法帶風向說疫苗會讓小孩變智障 可能以為自己有打疫苗又剛好是智障就以為全世界都這樣48F 03/22 06:16

其實之前歐巴馬就常常公開呼籲家長帶孩子注射疫苗

尤其之前加州爆發麻疹疫情
並擴散到各大州的時候
他還接受專門訪問請大家相信科學

而對我們這些出生一年後及國小都要接種麻疹疫苗的台灣孩子來說

可能比較難想像美國保守派固執的程度吧

(有人記得以前全班帶去保健室排隊打針ㄇ)

paca0713: 別忘了偶爾也要發廢文發洩壓力呀51F 03/22 06:17
jj1379746: 我以為你只會搶五樓QQ52F 03/22 06:41
chivalry70: 我都只發新聞然後看人在下面崩潰抒發53F 03/22 06:43
JingP: 哼哼 窩可肆ㄍ多變ㄉ女森ㄋ54F 03/22 06:44
tyifgee: 認真推55F 03/22 06:54
cerberi: 推56F 03/22 06:55
takeyourtime: 認真推57F 03/22 06:55
match123: 金皮偶昨天看到你在韓星版 原乃妳4傳播業的而且好專業的感覺ㄋㄡ><58F 03/22 07:00
chivalry70: 雙魚逆60F 03/22 07:00
dxoxb: 幹嘛打臉?說不定是社會實驗,把疫苗留給有判斷力的61F 03/22 07:05
蠻有趣的角度
變相的適者生存?
JingP: 啊啊被發現惹> < 其實要不是台灣新聞媒體業都官商勾結及長官只追求收視率點閱率,常逼迫寫廢新聞或聳動故事等失去專業的惡性循環,我也曾經想當鄉民最不齒的記者的QQ62F 03/22 07:06
Harbin: 推65F 03/22 07:12
chivalry70: 還好妳沒有進去那個大染缸66F 03/22 07:12
※ 編輯: JingP (36.227.71.144), 03/22/2017 07:18:36
lunaX19: 歐美國家 部份的人思想 也落後的蠻恐怖的67F 03/22 09:15
a8084123: 推68F 03/22 09:24
baiweilo: 紅明顯,疫苗接種率高才會有足夠的群體免疫力
不接種疫苗就是靠打疫苗的人在救,並且危害大眾
很多小時候接種的疫苗成年後是沒有保護力的
這時候如果接種率下降就有可能在成人爆發大流行
而且醫生很少看到這些因為疫苗而絕跡的疾病69F 03/22 10:18
WindSucker: 推74F 03/22 10:39

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