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標題 Re: [情報] 拓荒者炒掉Neil Olshey
時間 Sat Dec 4 03:13:05 2021
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標題 Re: [情報] 拓荒者炒掉Neil Olshey
時間 Sat Dec 4 03:13:05 2021
※ 引述《s27052705 (0.0)》之銘言：
: The Portland Trail Blazers have fired Neil Olshey, ending his 10-year run as the
: GM and president of basketball operations, league sources tell
: 拓荒者解僱Neil Olshey，結束了他10年GM和籃球營運總裁的任期
: https://twitter.com/chrisbhaynes/status/1466816532302872582?s=21
: Portland Trail Blazers have released statement, saying investigation founded tha
: t Neil Olshey violated the team’s “Code of Conduct.” Joe Cronin has been prom
: oted to interim GM.
: 拓荒者發表聲明
: 經調查發現Neil Olshey違反球隊行為準則
: Joe Cronin已經被晉升為臨時GM
: https://twitter.com/chrisbhaynes/status/1466817229882728455?s=21
本來要睡了，但因為看到這個震撼的消息，所以就補充一些從推特中看到值得注意，
以及一些知名/相關記者補充的細節
1.拓荒者官網的聲明圖文
https://bit.ly/3pnRWuK
![[圖]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1361784880368033794/mJXNTHh8_bigger.jpg)
@trailblazersStatement from the Portland Trail Blazers
![[圖]](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FFstve_VQAAzmS0.jpg)
![[圖]](https://i4.disp.cc/imgur/3qWFlZG.jpg)
2.此新聞的率先發布者
https://bit.ly/3EnR7bE
![[圖]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1381437210365472771/nY2lrV74_bigger.jpg)
@bhuncho23Portland insider Chris B Haynes being the first to break the Neil Olshey news.
Portland insider Chris B Haynes being the first to break the Neil Olshey news.
是曾經跑拓荒者新聞的Chris B Haynes，各位球迷應該也對這位記者不會陌生，
因為他也曾經跑過勇士線與騎士線，這篇報導的更完整版可點閱Yahoo體育網站
https://yhoo.it/3EtxTl2
NBA: Blazers fire GM Neil Olshey after toxic workplace allegations
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The Portland Trail Blazers fired president of basketball operations Neil Olshey after an investigation into allegations that he created a toxic workpl ...
事實上從Haynes的新聞下標，也不難看出Olshey被開除的原因
Trail Blazers fire GM Neil Olshey after investigation into alleged toxic
workplace(根據調查之後，發現他領導的辦公環境變成了有毒的)
3.Woj(Adrian Wojnarowski)的補充報導
https://bit.ly/32LaJs7
![[圖]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1264902234703265794/lC3YnIYF_bigger.jpg)
@wojespnThe Blazers have the longest streak of consecutive playoff seasons (8) in the league. Blazers are 11–12 to start the season.https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1466817089570844676 …
Portland has dismissed President of Basketball Operations Neil Olshey.The Blazers have the longest streak of consecutive playoff seasons (8) in the
league. Blazers are 11–12 to start the season.
拓荒者這次的開除令，跟球隊戰績也不無關係—儘管Olshey上任後球隊已連續8年
打進季後賽(30支球隊現階段最久)，但拓隊今年開季近兩個月以來，勝率還不到
五成。順帶一提，拓荒者在昨天主場的球賽中，以超過30分的差距慘敗給馬刺，
而且自己的得分僅勉強超過80分
打進季後賽(30支球隊現階段最久)，但拓隊今年開季近兩個月以來，勝率還不到
五成。順帶一提，拓荒者在昨天主場的球賽中，以超過30分的差距慘敗給馬刺，
而且自己的得分僅勉強超過80分
4.拓隊資深記者Jason Quick(他現在的效力單位是付費網站The Athletic)
https://bit.ly/3DqtVYJ
![[圖]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1381046166436028420/xbQwnC4D_bigger.jpg)
@jwquickAs she was leaving the arena flanked by her security detail, I asked Trail Blazers chair Jody Allen about the investigation into Neil Olshey, which is now a month old.
“I don’t have any comment right now,” she said without stopping.
As she was leaving the arena flanked by her security detail, I asked Trail
Blazers chair Jody Allen about the investigation into Neil Olshey, which is
now a month old.
“I don’t have any comment right now,” she said without stopping.
昨天JQ在兩側都有保鑣防衛下，試圖詢問拓荒者老闆Jody Allen有關於Neil Olshey
調查報告的細節時，只見Allen邊走邊講，明顯帶有急促的感覺表示︰我現在沒有(
不方便發表)任何評論
調查報告的細節時，只見Allen邊走邊講，明顯帶有急促的感覺表示︰我現在沒有(
不方便發表)任何評論
JQ的另一篇報導，則明顯看出即使拓荒者開除了Olshey，短期內也無法對球隊運作
太過樂觀
https://bit.ly/3lx2iY8
@jwquickOn the percolating problems in Portland: a coach and roster that don’t fit and the uncertain power structure to fix it.https://theathletic.com/2995322/2021...hip/?source=emp_shared_article …
On the percolating problems in Portland: a coach and roster that don’t fit
and the uncertain power structure to fix it.
拓荒者隊近期嚴重到像被滲透的問題︰1.教練與球員的搭配不佳、2.應該解決第一個
問題的內部權力結構，目前看來也給人不少不確定性
5.Blazer's Edge(SB Nation旗下的拓荒者隊主題網站)
https://bit.ly/3dfehoA
![[圖]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/793624060504657921/qHpUnLXS_bigger.jpg)
@blazersedgeNeil Olshey leaves the Trail Blazers under allegations of creating a hostile, toxic workplace, bullying employees, and using intimidation tactics to enforce his will.https://www.blazersedge.com/2021/12/...=social&utm_source=twitter …
Neil Olshey leaves the Trail Blazers under allegations of creating a hostile,
toxic workplace, bullying employees, and using intimidation tactics to
enforce his will.
Blazer's Edge更明確地指出了Olshey任職拓荒者時期幾個爭議的領導風格︰
(1)創造了敵對且有毒性(負面影響)的工作環境、(2)對下屬有霸凌的行為、
(3)會使用帶有恐嚇態度的策略，強化他的意志
(1)創造了敵對且有毒性(負面影響)的工作環境、(2)對下屬有霸凌的行為、
(3)會使用帶有恐嚇態度的策略，強化他的意志
6.Fire Neil Olshey的推特粉專(@@FireNeilOlshey)
https://twitter.com/FireNeilOlshey
Neil Olshey is a bum
網站說明︰Neil Olshey是個渾球(註︰Bum的英文原意是屁股，其實不難推測這個
單字與名人搭配時的延伸意思)
It’s over.
美國時間中午得知Olshey被開除的反應︰終於結束了
7.Chris Haynes關於拓荒者總管接任人選的後續報導
https://bit.ly/3Gbkq1E
![[圖]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1211113570303299584/86i1lS51_bigger.jpg)
@ChrisBHaynesYahoo Sources: With the Portland Trail Blazers firing general manager Neil Olshey, two candidates expected to receive strong consideration are Chicago Bulls GM Marc Eversley and New York Knicks GM Scott Perry.https://sports.yahoo.com/trail-blaze...toxic-workplace-171859167.html …
Yahoo Sources: With the Portland Trail Blazers firing general manager Neil
Olshey, two candidates expected to receive strong consideration are Chicago
Bulls GM Marc Eversley and New York Knicks GM Scott Perry.
目前已經有兩個人物浮上檯面︰公牛的Marc Eversley與尼克的Scott Perry
8.前NBC體育記者Dane Delgado
https://bit.ly/3xQHsYw
![[圖]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1317661760229314561/wgnJ3AJd_bigger.jpg)
@danegadohere’s my favorite Neil Olshey story: in 2018 we got invited to a private meeting to speak with Neil and Terry Stotts at the Blazers PF before the season started. It was for select media people. At the top, part of Olshey’s opening was, “Isn’t there a new guy here? Dan from NBC?"
here’s my favorite Neil Olshey story: in 2018 we got invited to a private
meeting to speak with Neil and Terry Stotts at the Blazers PF before the
season started. It was for select media people. At the top, part of Olshey’s
opening was, “Isn’t there a new guy here? Dan from NBC?"
我最想分享關於Neil Olshey的事蹟︰在2018年，我與夥伴受邀參加Neil與當時教練
Terry Stotts的季前媒體會議。在台上，Olshey有一句開場語是「這裡是不是有新人
記者啊，來自NBC的Dan嗎？」
Terry Stotts的季前媒體會議。在台上，Olshey有一句開場語是「這裡是不是有新人
記者啊，來自NBC的Dan嗎？」
(註︰這段文章有點長，但主要說明Olshey並沒有積極地與媒體建立關係，甚至曾經
把Delgado誤認成NBC另一位籃球記者Dan Feldman(他主要負責全國性新聞))
9.SB Nation記者Mookie Alexander(主要負責格鬥競賽與NFL海鷹隊，但因海鷹與
拓荒者同老闆且距離不遠，因此仍會追蹤拓荒者的消息)
https://bit.ly/3rz2iug
![[圖]](https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/1458309962640211970/1rYkPbyN_bigger.jpg)
@mookiealexanderNeil Olshey Blazers GM highlights:
--Giving Allen Crabbe $75 million then trading him to the team who offered him the money in the first place.
--Turning three first-round picks into Zach Collins and Caleb Swanigan.
--The Bazemore/Hezonja/Whiteside offseason.
--Getting fired.
Neil Olshey Blazers GM highlights:
--Giving Allen Crabbe $75 million then trading him to the team who offered
him the money in the first place.
--Turning three first-round picks into Zach Collins and Caleb Swanigan.
--The Bazemore/Hezonja/Whiteside offseason.
--Getting fired.
Neil Olshey擔任拓荒者總管以來的精華紀錄︰
(1)以7500萬鎂續簽Allen Crabbe，然後把他交易到一開始提出這份合約的球隊
(註︰Crabbe在當時是受限球員，所以拓荒者可以跟進其他優先開價球隊提出的合約，
Crabbe在隔季被交易到一開始提約的籃網隊)
(2)把三個首輪簽變成了Zach Collins與Caleb Swanigan
(3)Bazemore/Hezonja/Whiteside這三個效果有限的季外簽約或交易
(4)最後在今天被開除
https://bit.ly/3lAwfGN
@mookiealexanderHonorable mentions:
--Drafting Meyers Leonard and his subsequent extension.
--Paying Festus Ezeli $15 million for 0 games played.
--$70 million for Evan Turner.
--Complaining the bad defense is not because of the roster when he's actually full of shit.
Honorable mentions:
--Drafting Meyers Leonard and his subsequent extension.
--Paying Festus Ezeli $15 million for 0 games played.
--$70 million for Evan Turner.
--Complaining the bad defense is not because of the roster when he's actually
full of shit.
榮譽提名的後續事蹟︰
(5)選秀選了Meyers Leonard，然後又給他延長合約
(6)以15M挖角Festus Ezeli，結果他卻沒有出賽紀錄
(7)給了Evan Turner一份總價70M的合約
(6)以15M挖角Festus Ezeli，結果他卻沒有出賽紀錄
(7)給了Evan Turner一份總價70M的合約
(8)曾經抱怨球隊劣質的防守，並不是因為隊上的球員—但他明顯要為此負責
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心得︰從這幾篇短篇外電，或許會讓大家更了解Neil Olshey被開除的緣由
順帶一提，Olshey在加入拓荒者前，一開始效力的球隊其實是快艇(2003-12)，
當時快艇的老闆是以多項爭議言行惡名昭彰的Donald Sterling，
從這幾個外電，不難看出Olshey的言行還是多少受到前老闆的影響
從這幾個外電，不難看出Olshey的言行還是多少受到前老闆的影響
也遺憾Olshey在轉換工作環境之後，還是將一些過往的惡俗帶到拓荒者
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※ 編輯: sampsonlu919 (219.68.115.164 臺灣), 12/04/2021 03:15:00
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推 : 好猛1F 12/04 03:17
推 : Leonard跟Collins在當時的選秀評價都不差吧?2F 12/04 03:19
推 : 推個整理3F 12/04 03:21
推 : Zach Collins在選前原本就有到樂透行情沒錯4F 12/04 03:29
推 : Allen Crabbe當時那份約真的是莫名其妙5F 12/04 03:29
→ : Gonzaga蠻會栽培長人 ZC的學長 Olynyk 和 Sabonis兩人都進了樂透，而在當時ZC的年紀是三人中較年輕的6F 12/04 03:31
推 : ZC不能算太差啦，至少選秀端前兩年選了Lillard
和CJM算功德圓滿了，交易端有Plumlee換Nurkic+首輪2016簽約大失敗，不過那年太多總管中招了8F 12/04 03:52
和CJM算功德圓滿了，交易端有Plumlee換Nurkic+首輪2016簽約大失敗，不過那年太多總管中招了8F 12/04 03:52
推 : ZC不算很失敗啦 誰知道玻璃成這樣...XD11F 12/04 04:36
推 : ZC是傷病太頻繁，到馬刺目前也還沒上場過12F 12/04 04:51
推 : 講選秀那個有夠馬後炮13F 12/04 05:16
推 : 弱弱問,現在你拓老闆是誰啊?跟微軟股東有關係嗎14F 12/04 06:31
→ : 現在是Paul Allen的信託在管
然後目前海鷹跟拓荒者的代表都是他妹妹15F 12/04 06:35
然後目前海鷹跟拓荒者的代表都是他妹妹15F 12/04 06:35
推 : 簽約還是比較慘啦XD17F 12/04 06:41
推 : 應該要整理，把雙槍拆掉開始重建吧18F 12/04 07:22
推 : 要重建等這季結束吧 今年西區後段挺坦不太好坦19F 12/04 07:28
推 : 感謝整理。不過感覺上選秀/簽約的部份像是硬要塞的，有毒的領導才是主要吧？20F 12/04 07:52
推 : 2016年每隊都有垃圾大約 不能怪他22F 12/04 07:53
推 : 推23F 12/04 08:15
推 : 推這一篇24F 12/04 08:19
推 : 他才是阿拓這幾年一直突破不了的主因吧 這樣能幹10年也是蠻不簡單的25F 12/04 08:22
推 : 寫小賈說他眼光超爛，那怎麼不把同年一起選到的小李寫出來
還是選小李是球探組的功，選小賈是他的鍋27F 12/04 08:32
還是選小李是球探組的功，選小賈是他的鍋27F 12/04 08:32
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