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標題 [情報] 勇士面臨Kuminga、Moody的續約情況
時間 Mon Sep  9 19:07:55 2024


Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody extension situations


If the Warriors opt not to give either Kuminga or Moody an extension before

the October 21 deadline, then both players will be entering the 2024-25

season staring down restricted free agency next summer. While this is not

necessarily a bad thing, as many fourth-year players end up becoming

restricted free agents as they look to increase their value, the Warriors'

situation is slightly different because they may be forced to choose between

their two forwards.


如果勇士隊選擇在10月21日的截止日期前不給Kuminga或Moody任何一方延長合約,那麼兩

位球員將在2024-25賽季面臨明年夏天的受限制自由球員身份。這並不一定是壞事,因為許

多第四年球員最終成為受限制自由球員,以此來提高自己的價值,但勇士隊的情況稍有不

同,因為他們可能會被迫在這兩名前鋒之間做出選擇。


Kuminga obviously looks like the better overall player at this juncture given

how the Warriors use him, but Moody has always been a consistent talent on

the wing that would come at a much cheaper price. That is going to be the

biggest discussion regarding both players — what price the organization is

willing to pay to try and keep them.


目前來看,Kuminga顯然是整體上更好的球員,從勇士隊的使用情況來看就能看出來,但

Moody在側翼上一直是一位穩定的天才,而且他的價格會便宜得多。這將是關於兩位球員

的最大討論——球隊願意支付多少價格來保住他們。



As a result of the steady increase in production and role, Kuminga's value is

at an all-time high. While his camp is likely going to push for the full max

rookie extension, the same five-year, $225 million extension that Scottie

Barnes and Franz Wagner just received, the Warriors will likely be looking in

the ballpark of $140 million to $155 million, sources said. For example,

Jaden McDaniels received a five-year, $131 million extension from the

Minnesota Timberwolves in 2023, a deal that the Warriors are certainly

cognizant of pertaining to Kuminga's comparison.


由於Kuminga的產量和角色穩步提升,他的價值正處於歷史最高點。雖然他的陣營可能會推

動簽下與Scottie Barnes和Franz Wagner剛剛簽下的相同的五年2.25億美元的最大新秀

延長合約,但消息人士表示,勇士隊可能會將價格控制在1.4億美元至1.55億美元之間。

例如,2023年,明尼蘇達灰狼隊的Jaden McDaniels簽下了一份五年1.31億美元的延長合約

,這是一個勇士隊對Kuminga的比較中肯定會考慮的範例。


At the same time, with the money and revenue streams across the league

increasing, it would make sense for Kuminga's deal to surpass this recent

extension that McDaniels got.


隨著聯盟收入流和資金增加,Kuminga的合約金額超過McDaniels的合約是合理的。


Much like how conversations began last offseason with Klay and the Warriors,

there isn't expected to be much traction on getting a new deal done right

now. Kuminga and his camp are going to be pushing for a deal that pays no

less than $30 million per season, league sources said, whereas the Warriors

would much rather hold out and see how the young forward impacts the team

during the 2024-25 season. Nonetheless, the team still values Kuminga as one

of their top players, and he will undoubtedly be in the starting rotation

once again.


與Klay和勇士隊上賽季的談判開始的方式類似,目前並不預期會有太多進展。消息人士透

露,Kuminga的陣營正在推動每個賽季不少於3000萬美元的合約,而勇士隊則更希望保持

觀望,看看這位年輕前鋒在2024-25賽季對球隊的影響如何。儘管如此球隊仍然將Kuminga

視為他們的頂級球員之一,他無疑會再次出現在先發輪換陣容中。


Then there is Moody, who is also eligible for a rookie scale contract

extension. If Kuminga isn't going to get a new deal right now, there really

isn't much to discuss pertaining to the Warriors keeping Moody. The

22-year-old has been involved in trade talks throughout the summer, and the

Warriors do have a logjam of talent at the shooting guard and small forward

positions right now.


然後是Moody,他同樣有資格簽署新秀標準合約延長。如果Kuminga目前不會簽下新合約,

那麼關於勇士隊是否會留住Moody的討論也沒有太多意義。這位22歲的球員整個夏天一直

捲入交易傳聞中,勇士隊目前在得分後衛和小前鋒位置上也有大量的天才。



In addition to having Kuminga and Andrew Wiggins, the Warriors now have

Hield, Melton, and Anderson. All three new additions will be seeing

substantial minutes, which once again raises questions about how much of a

role and impact Moody will have during the 2024-25 season.


除了Kuminga和Andrew Wiggins,勇士隊現在還有Hield、Melton和Anderson。這三位新加

入的球員都會獲得大量出場時間,這再次引發了關於Moody在2024-25賽季將擔任多大角色

和發揮多大影響的問題。



There are only so many minutes, and as a result, Moody has been the one to

reside on the bench throughout the early portion of his career. While there

is certainly potential for him to grow into a key contributor either in or

out of the starting unit, Moody's best chance to find success would be with

another team besides Golden State. It would come as a shock to many if he was

to receive an extension prior to the Oct. 21 deadline.


出場時間是有限的,因此Moody在他職業生涯的早期大部分時間都待在板凳上。雖然他

確實有潛力成為先發或替補中的重要貢獻者,但Moody找到成功的最佳機會可能是在勇士

隊以外的球隊。如果他在10月21日截止日期前獲得延長合約,將令許多人感到驚訝。



消息來源:https://reurl.cc/Yq486a
Warriors face critical Jonathan Kuminga, Moses Moody deadline
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The Warriors will need to make a decision about possibly extending both Jonathan Kuminga and Moses Moody before the 2024-25 season. ...

 

短評或心得:苦命陣營想要5年225M 勇士目前給的範圍在140M-155M

            穆迪的位子要跟很多人競爭  兩人很可能擇一留下

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※ 編輯: kakala99 (36.231.103.156 臺灣), 09/09/2024 19:11:17
kevenchia: MOODY QQ1F 09/09 19:10
Wardyal: 這兩隻說真的也沒多強2F 09/09 19:12
cloki: Moody基本上算確定會走了吧3F 09/09 19:13
jack34031: 穩定的天才4F 09/09 19:14
ooxxman: 覺得勇士會來一發大交易賣年輕人幫咖哩找幫手5F 09/09 19:15
aqqwww: 沒季後賽的普通先發球員也可以頂薪了嗎?6F 09/09 19:15
ntusimmon: 不願意出這咖換馬卡男了 不強嗎?7F 09/09 19:16
sengoddard: 差不多的錢樓下要苦命還是傑登8F 09/09 19:17
ccccccccccc: 天才真多9F 09/09 19:19
vince4687: 不是因為爵士要舔哥不屑這兩隻才沒換到嗎10F 09/09 19:19
a1ibooda: 這兩個根本沒什麼實績吧11F 09/09 19:21
mepass: Moody肯定要走了吧 留下來也沒有愛12F 09/09 19:23
MoWilliams: 大頂薪時代,這兩隻超過30M/y也不是很意外13F 09/09 19:26
OrniG: 明明馬卡交易還有PODZ的問題14F 09/09 19:27
AtDe: 應該賣年青人找個適當的幫手吧15F 09/09 19:29
vince4687: Moody要是有30M年薪還交易幹嘛 笑死16F 09/09 19:29
roger2623900: 要個30M/Y不算過分吧17F 09/09 19:29
dwiee: 沒什麼好煩惱的吧 RFA讓市場決定就好
如果有人肯給他頂薪 那代表他有打出身手了18F 09/09 19:30
justice0926: 一場空又浪費咖哩時間 真的笑死20F 09/09 19:31
k2215777: 咖哩真的簽太高了 毒藥合約21F 09/09 19:32
sampsonlu919: 母弟更慘 比苦命還苦命 不曉得下一站會去哪22F 09/09 19:32
k2215777: 都知道自己需要頂級大腿才能贏球了還敢要這麼多 超好笑XD23F 09/09 19:32
sustainer123: moody30M 笑死25F 09/09 19:34
sakraypopo: Moody這種類型市場價值不高 替代品很多 大概中產左右能留 Kuminga說不定有人會開大約搶人 勇士只能吞26F 09/09 19:35
syh59624: 這次CBA遇到薪資問題的都只能留2星而已,剩下就是拼底薪戰隊28F 09/09 19:36
vict2468: 你放掉也沒空間補人,只能靠交易,勇士又爆薪資30F 09/09 19:37
harrybbs: 苦命頂新吞了吧31F 09/09 19:38
RamenOwl: 當然是留比較會舔的那個32F 09/09 19:40
awheaton311: Moody快走 留著被糟蹋33F 09/09 19:42
axi: 木笛還是趕快逃離吧 反正柯學家也不愛用34F 09/09 19:45
Kai877: 真的快跑 Kerr想冰就是冰到死 看看鐵疼35F 09/09 19:47
FAYeeeeeeee: 一定不會提前的 一個用不到 一個還在等兌現
提前留萬一走歪 Curry末期球隊又貴又爛36F 09/09 19:48
Kai877: 勇士現在要續誰都很謹慎了 有普爾這前科38F 09/09 19:50
xo45527788: 要提前現在早簽了 還在壓價39F 09/09 19:50
candbilly153: 趕快賣一賣啦,選了又不願意負擔成本去養真的有夠浪費時間40F 09/09 19:50
xo45527788: 單純不想換怕虧又想壓價續約42F 09/09 19:51
Erishcross: 求勇士別跟了 快逃43F 09/09 19:52
thatblue: Moody已經被吹成天才了喔 怎麼看都是廖化44F 09/09 19:53
c27932589: Talent這詞不是只有天才的意思…45F 09/09 19:55
e8e88: moody被四爺卡超慘...46F 09/09 20:03
zsp9081a: 勇士對於苦命的定位應該遠高過jaden 在灰狼的定位,真不打算給個頂?47F 09/09 20:08
ae6892723: 木笛至少有3 可是跟巴蒂重疊了49F 09/09 20:10
c27932589: 紅明顯一下 Talent翻的真的太怪了
第二段應該是「穩定的身手」
後面那段應該是「也有大量的天賦」50F 09/09 20:11
f77928: 勇士才是真的很天才 抱著一堆阿貓阿狗當寶
實際上沒留K湯 錯過了馬卡南 今年就是陪打53F 09/09 20:16
jardon: 木笛現在就是定點射手而已 四爺是跑動射手 勇士體系只能定點就是不好用
真的是因為四爺卡他?說笑吧 就是實力不夠而已 不然為什麼交易從沒聽到要他55F 09/09 20:18
pttnowash: 有一個超猩猩球員在湖人隊 可以挖過來
他上周有發投三分影片 擺發擺中59F 09/09 20:21
tyrone0923: 沒有要坦,當然阿貓阿狗加減用,看能不能多賣幾張票61F 09/09 20:21
a28200266: moody已經被玩的爛掉了吧62F 09/09 20:21
paracase: 現在每個人都以為自己可以拿到50m/y,都吃定球隊沒63F 09/09 20:21
jardon: 為什麼交易人家要舔哥或 苦命 ,偏偏就是沒聽過要64F 09/09 20:21
paracase: 有其他選擇65F 09/09 20:21
jardon: 木笛66F 09/09 20:21
GordnHayward: 有甚麼好選的  Moody在勇士根本沒用67F 09/09 20:30
VL1003: 因為 Moody 該養的時候,時間少得可憐,養成黃金期68F 09/09 20:32
nanamiiwill: 養壞了69F 09/09 20:32
VL1003: 基本上快過了,別隊要撿當然等低價當福袋開啊
與其說養壞,不如說沒在養吧...70F 09/09 20:33
KirkSynder: http://i.imgur.com/Ysh898u.jpg 二年前 馬刺JakobPoeltl 交易rumor不是就傳過想要Moody勝過Kuminga72F 09/09 20:37
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dog29635841: 木笛真的夠衰 追分連三顆三分 然後換成老害湯敗球74F 09/09 20:40
allen3407: talent翻成天賦或是人才都比翻成"天才"好75F 09/09 20:43
j3307002: 庫明加不是號稱勇士少主嗎,那就5Y/224M續他啊
等RFA跟價?當年太陽對艾頓也是等RFA跟價就被酸到爆怎麼同樣等RFA跟價,勇士不被酸,太陽就要被酸到爆呢不是說這邊太陽迷很多嗎,我看是艾頓迷比較多吧XD76F 09/09 20:45
MrTen: Moody去暴龍和高中隊友團圓吧80F 09/09 20:50
j3307002: 穆迪我記得也沒什麼愛,看勇士能不能低價留吧81F 09/09 20:51
idlewolf: Moody那叫有養是要笑掉人大牙喔 根本放養了吧82F 09/09 20:52
yaosian: 價差有點大耶感覺留不住?83F 09/09 20:53
jyekid: 古民家灌頂薪了吧84F 09/09 20:53
j3307002: 還有很多人替庫明加抱屈,真認為他受委屈就高價搶XD如果只是嘴巴說委屈,然後不高價搶,那就很虛偽了XD嘴巴說委屈,然後不高價搶,這種虛偽只是在害庫明加穆迪的問題也是一樣,認為他強就高價搶他XD85F 09/09 20:55
youtoo: 木笛情況比較有趣,勇士們隊形是適合他的打法的,但養成時間快過了還沒什麼養好的機會,現在被別隊撿走開福袋開出來的機會也低了不少,勇士早點把他89F 09/09 20:58
j3307002: 不要嘴巴說穆迪強,然後也不敢開大約92F 09/09 20:58
youtoo: 拿出去交易的價值也高點,現在真的尷尬93F 09/09 20:58
j3307002: 在資本主義社會,你不敢開大約證明你不看好他
就跟四爺說要尊重,最後也是選3Y/50M不選4Y/80M XD看來四爺真的不想當布朗尼的替補XD
因為別隊會認為穆迪發展性不高,大家都要年輕肉體XD嘴上說庫明加穆迪委屈,就去支持你球隊大約搶他吧XD否則這只是證明你們口中所謂的委屈有多麼廉價94F 09/09 20:59
whhw: 不急 反正有大量的天才257F 09/10 13:46
Wishmaster: 咖哩太高+1,考慮年紀這張合約的意義不是CP值吧...258F 09/10 15:25
softwords: 不看好苦命的天花板能到哪裡去 大概就這樣了259F 09/10 15:38
bm1041644: 八村上一季52.2% 三分42.2% 還被說溢價 苦命有20M?260F 09/10 15:59
cysticercus: Curry準不準不重要  他不用上場都值這個價261F 09/10 16:40

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