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標題 [爆卦] 肯亞剛跟中國拿一筆大錢
時間 Thu Apr 14 20:19:58 2016


原文很長,我只翻倒數第二段的一句話
「4/08一群台灣人被裝機上中國的同一天,肯亞從中國到手六億美金的貸款」

補充:
肯亞的GDP是705億鎂,
6億鎂接近1%,好大的貸款

台灣2012的GDP是4740億鎂
如果要跟中國借一筆47億鎂(約1500億新台幣)的貸款
不知道要送誰上飛機去北京比較好

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外媒《外交家》報導
"China ‘Abducts’ Taiwanese in Kenya"
http://thediplomat.com/2016/04/china-abducts-taiwanese-in-kenya/
China ‘Abducts’ Taiwanese in Kenya | The Diplomat
[圖]
The forced deportation of Taiwanese citizens to China sparks fears about extraterritoriality. ...

 

Taiwanese of all stripes were aghast this week after eight Taiwanese
nationals were among a group of Chinese citizens forced onto a plane to China
last Friday. It is not known why Chinese authorities sought to have the
Taiwanese extradited to China; the eight had been cleared of charges of
telecommunications fraud by a court in in Kenya. The incident, which Taipei
has described as “illegal abduction” and “uncivilized action,” raises
serious questions about Chinese extraterritoriality and the “one China”
 policy.

The eight nationals in question were among a total of 37 individuals — 23 of
them Taiwanese — who were acquitted of fraud in an April 5 Kenya High Court
decision and were given 21 days to leave Kenya. One of the eight is
reportedly a Taiwanese-American. The remaining 15 Taiwanese were put on a
plane to China on Tuesday, also in defiance of the court order. Chinese
officials in Kenya reportedly pressured Kenyan authorities to send the
Taiwanese nationals to China.

Taiwanese foreign ministry officials dispatched from South Africa (Taiwan has
no official diplomatic relations with and no representative office in Kenya)
have been denied access to the Taiwanese individuals, and reports indicate
that submachine gun-wielding Kenyan police used tear gas to subdue the
Taiwanese who resisted deportation. Kenyan authorities had also told the
Taiwanese that their government had bought them tickets to return home, which
turned out to be a lie (see an undated letter by detainees expressing fears
of being sent to China).

Kenya’s Interior Ministry maintains that the Taiwanese nationals entered
Kenya illegally and were to be extradited to China because this was the route
they had taken to enter the country. Taipei has called the act “a gross
violation of basic human rights.” Taiwan’s Foreign Ministry has reached out
to Kenyan parliamentarians and rights activists to provide assistance in
filing a lawsuit against Kenyan police.

According to an official from the Africa division at Taiwan’s Ministry of
Foreign Affairs, a total of 45 Taiwanese nationals based in Kenya have been
extradited to China in two unrelated cases.

At this point, it is difficult not to regard the move as a case of abduction
of foreign nationals by China with Kenyan complicity. While Beijing and
Nairobi began talks on an extradition treaty in August 2015, an extradition
treaty normally facilitates the return of a national to his or her country of
origin to face prosecution. The problem, of course, is that Taiwanese are
holders of a Republic of China (ROC) passport, not one from the People’s
Republic of China (PRC).

Beijing could have wiggled out of this one by pointing to the precedent set
by the U.S. in its efforts to combat international cyber crime, under the
premise that the activities of the alleged criminals were detrimental to China
’s security. One case, for example, involved the deportation in 2007 of
23-year-old Ovidiu-Ionut Nicola-Roman, a Romanian citizen, to the United
States under a Mutual Legal Assistance Protocol and extradition treaty
between the United States and Romania. Several other Romanian nationals
involved in the scheme were expected to be sent to the United States to face
prosecution. Ukrainian and Estonian nationals have also been extradited to
the United States under similar agreements. “Criminals who exploit the power
and convenience of the Internet do not recognize national borders; therefore
our efforts to prevent their attacks cannot end at our borders either,”
 Deputy Attorney General Mark R. Filip said at the time.

In 2009, Taiwan and China signed a joint crime-fighting agreement, which
arguably could have facilitated the exchange of information between the two
sides had the Taiwanese individuals been sent back to Taiwan.

But China’s Ministry of Foreign Affairs didn’t refer to the U.S. precedent
or cross-strait agreements, and instead lauded Kenya’s decision, implying
that the extradition was the result of Nairobi’s adherence to the “one China
” policy. In other words, Beijing would rather be accused of abduction and
extraterritoriality — and would rather risk alienating the Taiwanese — than
to refer to a practical and arguably sensible precedent, set by the United
States, that would imply that Taiwanese are not Chinese citizens subject to
PRC laws.

Due to the complicity of various regimes that have developed close ties with
Beijing over the years, this latest incident also suggests that Taiwanese “
criminals” — a category that, under the PRC’s National Security Law, which
supposedly extends to Hong Kong, Macau, and Taiwan, could include “splittism
” and other loosely defined threats to national security — no longer have
assurances of due process when they travel abroad.

According to Reuters, on April 8 — the same day the Taiwanese were loaded on
the plane to China — Kenya announced it would receive a new loan of $600
million from China to help Nairobi address its budget deficit.

In February 2011, the Philippines deported 14 Taiwanese involved in an
investment scam to China alongside 10 Chinese nationals, sparking anger in
Taipei. Manila refused to apologize for the incident. A later crackdown in
October 2015 resulted in the deportation of 42 Taiwanese nationals back to
Taiwan at a time of high tensions between the Philippines and China over
parts of the South China Sea.


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suhaw: 然後他(們)就死掉了1F 04/14 20:20
lloop: 賣人換錢?2F 04/14 20:20
Mahoutsukai: So what? 能怎麼阻止他們??3F 04/14 20:20
amury: 被當商品賣了4F 04/14 20:20
kisaku1980: 挖 值不少錢欸5F 04/14 20:20
gohrs: 太扯了6F 04/14 20:20
james732: 六百萬美金就可以賤賣台灣人的命QQ7F 04/14 20:21
是六億六億六億,我蠢了
DASHOCK: 賣了8F 04/14 20:21
shinshong: 不意外啦9F 04/14 20:21
dearjohn: 哈哈哈www10F 04/14 20:21
j55888819: 我們把馬英九送過去會有錢可拿嗎?11F 04/14 20:21
j68345517: 平均一個人多少?12F 04/14 20:21
kennyoct19: 國與國間的人口販賣!?13F 04/14 20:21
yoyosunmoon: 今天林俊憲質詢時有提到這新聞14F 04/14 20:21
GreatHong: 落後國家很需要金援啊15F 04/14 20:21
jma306:   國際外交  錢就是外交力量之一16F 04/14 20:21
karasumi: 滿滿的黑幕?17F 04/14 20:22
vitalis: 販賣人口?18F 04/14 20:22
arnold3: 是哪位外交家站出來說就是19F 04/14 20:22
那是報紙名,您是反串吧
cpc21478: 600萬美金就可以換世界各地抓台灣人的權利 便宜20F 04/14 20:22
是六億六億六億,我蠢了
BJkiN: 意外嗎?比雞歪中國會輸你?小菜一碟而已好嗎?=_=21F 04/14 20:22
※ 編輯: a5b4c3d2e1 (114.24.209.206), 04/14/2016 20:23:17
jma306: 台灣外交最會撒錢  就是李登輝了22F 04/14 20:22
mynumber55: 好爽喔 買空賣空23F 04/14 20:22
arnold3: 不然我說肯亞人重了中國的樂透都行24F 04/14 20:22
可以呀,如果你開的了一間報社叫路透社的話
kairi5217: 這裡有一群台灣人很便宜 需要的話 打這個電話25F 04/14 20:22
arsian: 打擊犯罪呢 流氓國家真高尚26F 04/14 20:23
s902131: 臺灣人有600萬鎂該偷笑了啦 摸摸自己懶趴
有沒有這個價27F 04/14 20:23
是六億六億六億,我蠢了
otsuka123: 難怪 抓到了 支那不意外29F 04/14 20:23
kirbycopy: 其實最不爽的是中國自己都說肯亞是"支持一中"了 台灣還30F 04/14 20:23
Leeng: wow~31F 04/14 20:23
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ruo01332000: $600 million不是6億嗎?32F 04/14 20:23
fallen1: 支持全家洗錢的偉大習領導 支那賤畜不意外33F 04/14 20:24
kirbycopy: 一堆人扯些有的沒的法理 正義之類的 根本亂扯34F 04/14 20:24
air33456: 拿人錢辦事有什麼不對35F 04/14 20:24
fifi0828: 給一大筆錢也要把這批人綁走 到底這批人惹了什麼禍36F 04/14 20:24
Leeng: 600 million   自己算吧37F 04/14 20:24
乾,我好蠢,謝謝提醒
mmc109815038: 看來  這些台灣人被肯亞大價錢賣掉了 XDDDDDD38F 04/14 20:24
※ 編輯: a5b4c3d2e1 (114.24.209.206), 04/14/2016 20:24:52
isscc2014: Highlight 高調推39F 04/14 20:24
mmc109815038: 肯亞這個非洲國家太有樂趣了  XDDDD40F 04/14 20:24
st9061204: .........這就是所謂的實力嗎?41F 04/14 20:24
※ 編輯: a5b4c3d2e1 (114.24.209.206), 04/14/2016 20:25:11
fifi0828: 這根本不是單純司法案件啊 不要再屁什麼詐欺了42F 04/14 20:24
cul287: 就說是綁架台灣人了43F 04/14 20:24
kageo101: 然後他就死掉了44F 04/14 20:24
Ipadhotwater: 當作商品賣掉了45F 04/14 20:25
※ 編輯: a5b4c3d2e1 (114.24.209.206), 04/14/2016 20:26:10
saiulbb: 你LAG好久 之前就有新聞了46F 04/14 20:25
turbomons: 兩國公然販賣人口 聯合國兩公約是不是該被當笑話47F 04/14 20:25
msekili: 超貴XDDDD48F 04/14 20:25
KUGA 
KUGA: 無聊 這社會本來就是 有錢屌就大 !49F 04/14 20:25
grandwar: 在外國作生意的小心囉50F 04/14 20:25
Chenflying: 那些台灣人騙了支那人至少8千萬美金 值了51F 04/14 20:25
tyifgee: 哇靠 那群人到底是52F 04/14 20:25
anoreader: 不意外 外交鐵則 利益利益利益 正義那些是騙魯蛇國家53F 04/14 20:25
planky: 然後他就死掉了54F 04/14 20:25
ben811018: 沒想到台灣詐欺犯這麼值錢55F 04/14 20:25
nitvx: 好划算的交易56F 04/14 20:25
gabin2000: 靠北,變販賣人口了啊57F 04/14 20:26
inspire0201: 等等,所以那些人這麼值錢喔?????58F 04/14 20:26
DASHOCK: 梅是兒  梅是兒59F 04/14 20:26
fetoyeh: 這是貸款喔 XD60F 04/14 20:26
CP543: 台灣人滿值錢的嘛 那羅in shit拿多少?61F 04/14 20:26
kingfrece: 賺到惹62F 04/14 20:26
fifi0828: 肯亞為了錢錢立刻配合63F 04/14 20:27
pojohn: 中國打不贏  肯亞應該打得贏 了吧!!64F 04/14 20:27
otsuka123: 非洲人 肚子餓餓 拿到錢 誰管你國際法65F 04/14 20:27
a1070013: 古阿明說過了,有錢人的小孩,什麼都比較會66F 04/14 20:27
kronos: 600Million 是六億才對吧....?67F 04/14 20:27
nitvx: 這國家在兩國之間拿盡好處 台灣藥學一下 美中間要怎麼生存68F 04/14 20:27
no2muta: 也太貴吧XDDD雖說是貸款69F 04/14 20:27
sy031653: 這些人說不定會跟法輪功一樣,器官被扒光光?70F 04/14 20:28
lovelebron24: 幹鬼島人命賤71F 04/14 20:28
fifi0828: 問題是都說是罪犯為啥還要花錢買72F 04/14 20:28
mayfifth: 馬英九:一切都在掌握中73F 04/14 20:28
cat5672: 肯亞及中國表示:純屬巧合 兩件事沒有關聯74F 04/14 20:28
fifi0828: 說你罪犯根本煙霧彈啊75F 04/14 20:28
Mmxmmx: 有兩億我早就回家了76F 04/14 20:28
RedCarRet: KMT快出來抗議沒拿到回扣啦77F 04/14 20:29
mmc109815038: 借給非洲國家的貸款  通常要不回來  等同於直接給錢78F 04/14 20:29
misaki1088: $$$$79F 04/14 20:29
dufflin: 人人都有價碼 肯亞拿到這樣 那雪螺呢 馬統呢80F 04/14 20:29
molittlesky: 然後他們就拿到600萬了81F 04/14 20:29
是六億六億六億,我蠢了
s595857: 賣馬19 意者密 南門交易82F 04/14 20:29
Anikk: 6億美金!買這一群騙子!肯亞大賺83F 04/14 20:29
ImBBCALL: 賺翻84F 04/14 20:29
mmc109815038: 到頭來  錢才是硬實力呀  XDDDD85F 04/14 20:29
nitvx: 賣他國的人民 還賣的價格這麼好86F 04/14 20:29
fifi0828: 中國為了搞這一齣真的急了87F 04/14 20:30
rainxo6p: 挖 肯亞這下拿了面子又賺錢....88F 04/14 20:30
momoisacow: 賣罪犯換GDP 犯罪經濟學89F 04/14 20:30
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Blumenkranz: 6E喔90F 04/14 20:30
mmc109815038: 古非洲確實有抓外族人當奴隸賣掉的傳統91F 04/14 20:30
wsx26997785: 肯亞就中國養的阿  非洲都是92F 04/14 20:30
serval623: 381萬人也很高興呀!普天同慶祖國懲罰鬼島騙子93F 04/14 20:30
cynric717: 推94F 04/14 20:31
youthyeh: 想知道馬19拿中共多少錢95F 04/14 20:31
qazwsx0128: 好吧 那我們拿六兆出來吧  我先嚕一下96F 04/14 20:31
mmc109815038: 這些錢  肯亞民眾拿不到的  ^^97F 04/14 20:31
wsx26997785: ============> 中共說詐騙6億美金 原來是給肯亞阿98F 04/14 20:31
funkD: 6E 爽歪歪耶99F 04/14 20:32
ncshue84: 台灣可以出1000億阿 反正人權無價 大家就多繳點稅244F 04/14 22:58
ship1228: 是6億  OK?245F 04/14 22:59
doranako: 這些人還真值錢,中國花錢到底要幹嘛246F 04/14 22:59
drugwitch: 真好賺欸,以後大家都抓臺灣人賣給中國ㄛ247F 04/14 23:01
ncshue84: 當台灣沒錢?馬上開個募款專號一定幕到好幾百億248F 04/14 23:02

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