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標題 [外絮] 火箭論壇關於林的討論
時間 Sun Jul 29 23:26:31 2012

這裡應該是美國火箭迷的集散地
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以前習慣去RealGM看鄉民討論的林迷，可以轉移陣地了。:)
RealGM上雖然也有火箭板，但遠不及clutchfans熱鬧。

現在論壇上有一篇置頂的討論主題
"[OFFICIAL] Jeremy Lin IS a Houston Rocket"

以下翻譯兩個球迷的對話：
一個是JohnTs，2012年7月加入論壇，是尼克迷也是林迷。
另一個是ArtV，2002年6月加入論壇，是10年以上的火箭迷。

討論串出現在第63頁，#後面的數字代表第幾篇。

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#1251 ArtV 07-18-2012, 08:52 AM
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NY only gave Lin a chance when all their PGs went down with injuries. They
act like they are the reason for his play. He is the reason for his play and
he got the opportunity by default not as a favor. And they could have still
had him back but for some very strange reason they decided to sign an out of
shape Felton instead.

Lin is his own man just as he should be. Welcome back Jeremy

紐約尼克直到他們所有的後衛都受傷之後，才給林一個機會。
尼克表現得一副林之所以成功全都該歸功於他們。
林的成功是歸功自己的努力，尼克沒有特意給他機會，只是那時正好輪到他。
而且他們本來可以把林簽回來，卻因為莫名的理由，決定簽下身材走樣的肥頓。

林一直以來都是靠自己，這才是對的。
歡迎歸隊，Jeremy。

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#1252 JohnTs 07-18-2012, 08:52 AM
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Why can't New Yorkers be upset. It's a very conflicted time for us right now.

為什麼紐約人不能沮喪？對我們來說，這是充滿掙扎矛盾的時刻。

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#1253 ArtV 07-18-2012, 09:06 AM
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Being upset is ok. Calling him racist name, a traitor, etc and making it seem
like its his fault for leaving is where its messed up. Dolan has plenty and
why in the world would you sign Felton? Goran left the Rockets after he
bloomed when Lowry went down. Nobody called him names. Nobody called him a
traitor. Yes there was anger but it was toward management...and he was an UFA.

Lin is his own man and signing for more money is the natural thing to do. You
could have matched but management chose not to. Who is really to blame here?

沮喪是一回事。但用種族歧視的字眼稱呼林，好像離開全是他的錯，就太糟糕了。
杜蘭有的是錢，為什麼偏偏要簽肥頓？
抓雞在火箭大放異彩，但球季結束就走人。
沒有人給他取難聽的綽號，沒有人叫他叛徒。
球迷是很生氣，但生氣的對象是管理層……更何況抓雞是不受限自由球員。

林是獨立個體，他簽下金額較高的合約也合情合理。
尼克高層只需跟進合約就能留下他，但高層選擇放棄。
這究竟該怪誰？

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#1257 JohnTs 07-18-2012, 09:22 AM
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I agree 100%. I think it's pretty humorous that people are calling him a
traitor, like the dude isn't supposed to try to get as much guaranteed money
as he can. I also think the racist comments are completely out of line for a
guy who made a business decision for himself.

我百分之百同意你。
有人喊他叛徒實在很好笑，好像他不應該爭取更有保障的合約似的。
林所做的決定只不過是在商言商，我也覺得用種族歧視的字眼來評價他實在太超過。

As where LeBron had a choice of where he wanted to go, Lin didn't have that
much of a choice; his destiny was to be determined by whoever wanted him
more, not necessarily vice versa.

LBJ有權決定自己的去向，林卻沒有這樣的選擇。
他的去向取決於哪一支隊伍更有心想網羅他，而不是他更想去哪支隊伍。

If Knicks fans are really mad and don't want to express their anger to Dolan
they should look to Morey --- He's the one who set the proverbial bar so high
it made Dolan reconsider offering.

如果尼克球迷真的很憤怒，但又不想把怒氣發洩在杜蘭身上，
那他們生氣的對象應該是莫雷。
他才是那個把金額提高到杜蘭必須重新考慮是否跟進的罪魁禍首。

You can't fault Lin (or his agent) for trying to get the most money.

你不能責怪林（或他的經紀人）設法爭取最大的合約。

I am a HUGE Lin and Knicks fan. You may have seen me on TV the night he
torched the Lakers, as I was the guy with the orange, "ALL I DO IS LIN LIN
LIN" shirt (ESPN gave me like 40sec of airtime!).

我是忠實的林迷和尼克迷。
你們可能在電視轉播上看過我，就是他大敗湖人那場。
我是那個穿著"ALL I DO IS LIN LIN LIN" T恤的傢伙。
(ESPN好像足足給了我40秒的鏡頭）。

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I'm gonna miss that kid. There was one moment in the Lakers game I was
watching on TV (I DVR'd it to re-watch when i got home), the Knicks were up
41-49 going into halftime, and Lin was playing great but couldn't take
advantage of Tyson Chandler for any alley-oops. Before they let him go into
the lockerroom, Lisa Salters him a quick 1st half interview. I remember a
very intriguing part of the conversation:

我會很想念這個孩子。
對湖人這場有個插曲，我之後才在電視上看到
（我事先預錄比賽，這樣回家後才可以重看）。
上半場尼克以41-49領先，林打得很出色，但他一直無法和拳王連線。
在他進休息室前，記者Lisa Salters攔住他做中場訪問。
以下是很有意思的對話：

Salters: "So, how difficult has it been to get the ball inside like you
usually do"

記者：把球傳到禁區是不是比往常來得困難？

Lin: "Well we've been trying to do some different things but I need to get
guys like Tyson and Amar'e more involved. I'm gonna go watch some tape right
now"

林：我們試著嘗試不同方法。我必須找到拳王讓他參與進攻。我現在要進去看錄影帶了。

Salters: "How do you see the.....wait, you're going to look at the tape right
now?"

記者：你怎麼看……等等！你現在要進去看錄影帶？

Lin: "yeah, right now."

林：沒錯，就是現在。

....and he went and watched the tape, came back out, and was able to utilize
Tyson more effectively en route to having an unbelievable overall game.

然後他就進去看比賽錄影，回到場上後，他和拳王的連線更有效率，
這場比賽令人難以置信。

This kid appears to have the type of work ethic that is extremely hard to
come by, especially in the big bad world of the NBA where it's easier to be
flashy than fundamental. Watching game tape at halftime is just one small
example of the ways in which this kid will try to better himself.

這孩子擁有的敬業態度簡直難能可貴，
特別是在NBA這個大染缸，華而不實往往比腳踏實地要來得容易。
在比賽中場看錄影帶，從這個小例子就可以看出，這孩子是怎樣努力讓自己更進步。

While I understand the logic of the Knicks deciding not to bring him back, I
don't necessarily agree with it; but you never have to agree with the
decision your team makes, and so I will take this with a (very large) grain
of salt, and hopefully Lin becomes a very solid NBA player.

儘管我可以理解尼克不簽他回來的背後邏輯，但我並不贊同這項決定；
然而你並不需要同意你支持球隊的每個決定，所以我只能對此持保留態度。
並且希望林能夠成為一名表現紮實穩定的NBA球員。

The sneak in me would think that this is a Knicks move to set themselves up
to trade away Amar'e and get CP3, but I think we all know by now that Dolan
isn't very good at poker.

雖然我暗自猜想尼克下這步棋，是為了之後交易阿罵、換來CP3，
但我們都知道杜蘭在牌桌上的表現不怎麼高明。

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心得：

還是有像JohnTs這樣比較理性的尼克迷。XD

（不過他為了林特地加入火箭論壇，應該也算是忠實林迷。）

簡單挑幾篇留言翻譯，有興趣的歡迎討論 + 接力。:)

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推 PTT0000:感謝原PO翻譯整理！clutchfans還沒認真逛過，但能看到球迷這樣對話很感動！那場對湖人比賽中場訪問，Lin說要去看錄影帶，連訪問他的女記者都嚇一跳，他真的很敬業XD2F 07/29 23:29
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推 plzsmile:喔喔~~感謝n大分享！ 錄影帶那段有聽說過，但有畫面嗎？6F 07/29 23:31
推 PTT0000:有啊，湖人跟尼克那場比賽中場的訪問7F 07/29 23:33
推 yun0215:JohnTs太有愛了!!!!!!!原來就是穿LIN~LIN~LIN T 的人!!!!8F 07/29 23:33
推 gaudiron:謝翻譯9F 07/29 23:34
推 plzsmile:哈XDD 剛去翻了一下中場訪問，真的有耶~~10F 07/29 23:34
推 dalepp:感謝翻譯與資訊分享11F 07/29 23:35
推 xsummerx:推翻譯!!我對這球迷超有印象的XDD12F 07/29 23:36
推 essendo:感謝翻譯與資訊分享!!13F 07/29 23:36
推 Lintendo:All I do is Lin~ Lin~ Lin~14F 07/29 23:36
→ Emily173:這個Lin~ Lin~ Lin~我以為他是個名人，鏡頭照超久的。15F 07/30 00:08
推 patrickleeee:常看對湖人高光應該常看到他XD 文章還沒看到照片我就想到 他應該是黑人 當時照超久的16F 07/30 00:23
→ ilanese:尼克不報價又不跟進別隊的約，那你叫Lin要怎麼待在尼克？18F 07/30 00:39
→ noral:JohnTs超有愛^^ 那位資深火箭迷說的也很有道理19F 07/30 00:57
推 putare:感謝翻譯~~~20F 07/30 02:30
推 Number41:希望會躲過CP3人生21F 07/30 02:53
推 tonylou:great article selection! thanks22F 07/30 03:15
推 iamPamela:謝謝JonhTs!!!!! 感謝翻譯!!!!!23F 07/30 08:30
推 kerotamama:感謝翻譯~總是還有人記得他的認真XD 期待新球季啦~~~24F 07/30 09:11
推 admorert:大推專業翻譯和資料整理*^____________^*
看到JohnTs的理性 某些媒體和球迷真應該感到羞愧....25F 07/30 09:13
推 nancyh:感謝分享和翻譯^^27F 07/30 09:44
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推 leroialice:鏡頭在他身上停好久，我也以為他是個名人，很有架勢XD36F 07/30 16:04
推 admorert:以為是名人+1 想再大喊一次：某些媒體和球迷應該感到羞愧37F 07/30 16:14
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