看板 C_Chat作者 wizardfizban (瘋法師)標題 [新聞] 往日不在開發者:沒全額買就別抱怨沒續作時間 Mon Apr 19 08:11:35 2021
‘Don’t complain if there’s no sequel if you didn’t buy it full price’
says Days Gone developer
https://www.vg247.com/2021/04/18/days-gone-2-john-garving-podcast/
Days Gone director John Garvin has responded to the unraveling story about
Days Gone 2.
The writer and creative director of Days Gone took to David Gaffe’s podcast
to state that players shouldn’t “complain if a game doesn’t get a sequel”
if they didn’t buy it “at fucking full price”.
“I do have an opinion on something that your audience may find of interest,
and it might piss some of them off,” Garvin said on the podcast (thanks,
VGC). “If you love a game, buy it at fucking full price. I can’t tell you
how many times I’ve seen gamers say ‘yeah, I got that on sale, I got it
through PS Plus, whatever’.
“I’m just saying, you don’t [know if you like a game until you’ve played
it], but don’t complain if a game doesn’t get a sequel if it wasn’t
supported at launch.
“It’s like, God of War got whatever number millions of sales at launch and,
you know, Days Gone didn’t. I’m just speaking for me personally as a
developer, I don’t work for Sony, I don’t know what the numbers are.”
“I can tell you that when we were doing [Syphon Filter] Dark Mirror [on
PSP], we got so fucked on Dark Mirror because piracy was a thing and Sony wasn
’t really caught up on what piracy was doing to sales,” Garvin went on to
explain.
“And we would show them torrents, a torrent site had 200,000 copies of Dark
Mirror being downloaded. If I remember it right – the numbers could be wrong
– but regardless, I was pissed about it then, I was like, ‘this is money
out of my pocket’.
“So I think the uptick in engagement with the game is not as important as,
did you buy the game at full price? Because if you did, then that’s
supporting the developers directly.”
Sony Bend apparently pitched Days Gone 2 to Sony, but it never got made
because the company wanted to invest in safer, more commercially attractive
games. Sony reportedly turned down Days Gone 2 before development began.
Days Gone launched to mixed critical acclaim but seems to have found a soft
spot in the heart of the gaming audience at large. Back when it launched in
2019, VG247 called its story “very dumb”.
The title has come to the PlayStation 5 running at 60fps at a dynamic 4K
resolution, and it is also coming to PC this spring. It is also one of the
games available through PlayStation Plus this month.
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‘Don’t complain if there’s no sequel if you didn’t buy it full price’
says Days Gone developer
往日不在開發者:如果你沒有全價買遊戲,就別抱怨沒出續作。
這篇下面有人回嘴:
Don't complain if players don't pay full price because it's just not that
good.
別抱怨玩家沒全價買,因為只是它沒那麼好。
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[新聞] 往日不在開發者:沒全額買就別抱怨沒續作
04-19 08:11 wizardfizban.
04-19 10:42 wizardfizban.
※ 編輯: wizardfizban (36.235.74.93 臺灣), 04/19/2021 08:12:51
推 M4Tank: 上一個嗆玩家的遊戲都長墳頭草了3F 04/19 08:12
推 qsx889: 剛發售的時候又不會打折4F 04/19 08:12
不是有沒有說錯的問題...
問題是如果你不是這遊戲的狂熱支持者,你會多關心它有續作?
會打折時買的說穿了都是不覺得這遊戲有多必需的玩家。
推 roywow: 有點有道理 可是你這款遊戲真的爛啊.....7F 04/19 08:13
※ 編輯: wizardfizban (36.235.74.93 臺灣), 04/19/2021 08:14:44
推 berice152233: 遊戲真的那麼好,玩家都說錢給你快點讓我買的心態在搶的好嗎
說這種話只是讓玩家對遊戲的標準提高而已11F 04/19 08:15
推 vm4m06: 道理大家都知道,但是特價的誘惑我無法拒絕14F 04/19 08:15
推 a1216543: 所以是一個製作人嗆狂熱支持者的概念嗎15F 04/19 08:15
推 mp2267: 能理解現代遊戲開發成本和遊戲售價不成正比例,但要求玩家改變消費行為模式也太糟16F 04/19 08:16
推 Jerrybow: 我之前衝全額買的2077...就算有續作我也不敢衝了22F 04/19 08:17
→ mp2267: 還不如利用dlc商法、多人遊玩模式商城、手遊轉蛋去吸金23F 04/19 08:17
推 bl00din: bug那麼多要人全額買LUL26F 04/19 08:18
推 CCNK: 和玩家對嗆的好像都長草了30F 04/19 08:20
推 u9596g12: 如果是其他遊戲還沒意見 這款的話....32F 04/19 08:21
推 ice76824: 這個垃圾遊戲也不值得全價買33F 04/19 08:22
→ yudofu: 實際上的通關率統計就是大部分都不想玩完啊,不然就是按關卡收費34F 04/19 08:22
推 ssarc: 說的好像這世界上東西都不打折似的37F 04/19 08:22
推 LABOYS: 不能說的實話39F 04/19 08:22
推 gp99000: 這麼生氣啊XD所以好玩嗎?41F 04/19 08:23
推 amsmsk: 好 那我打折也不買了42F 04/19 08:23
推 SakeruMT: 你可以不要特價啊,永不打折誰辦促銷就下架不賣43F 04/19 08:23
推 StBeer: 訂價定高一點啊44F 04/19 08:24
→ LABOYS: 2077推出前,波蘭人可是買三代會免費送一二代給你玩,被玩45F 04/19 08:24
推 felixden: 我以為打折買的成本是平台吸收 原來是作者喔?46F 04/19 08:24
→ LABOYS: 家吹屌吹到爆炸的公司呢47F 04/19 08:24
推 abysszzz: 遊戲做得夠好,那就鼓起勇氣不要打折賣啊,大家都原價買48F 04/19 08:24
→ fr75: 怎麼說出那麼腦殘的話 公關都不爽做了喔49F 04/19 08:24
推 frank0927: 現在一堆遊戲也拆開賣,彼此彼此而已50F 04/19 08:24
→ LABOYS: 結果2077爆炸之後玩家根本就不管你之前多佛心多慷慨 XDDD51F 04/19 08:25
推 qsx889: 10/10看現在誰會全額買52F 04/19 08:25
→ abysszzz: 說起來平台打折賣還不是你們開發者也想多賺買了不玩的53F 04/19 08:25
→ Mimmature: 事實 可是人類無法接受抨擊自己的事實54F 04/19 08:25
→ LABOYS: 所以重點就是你遊戲要做得夠好,做一堆垃圾出來也是被罵爆55F 04/19 08:25
推 ice17: 他的遊戲就只值多少錢,看看魔物獵人原價還不是賣爆56F 04/19 08:25
→ abysszzz: 雲玩家/類雲玩家的錢,說穿了就上下交相賊而已57F 04/19 08:25
→ Mimmature: 兩邊都有問題 就像我衝首發買到雷的也一堆58F 04/19 08:26
推 w94b06: 就是款評價優良的殭屍遊戲 跩成一副大破大立的曠世奇作
開口閉口就是他賺錢他虧錢 嘴臉實在不是很好看62F 04/19 08:27
→ Mimmature: 本來就是兩個對立面的人 就互相別要求對方為自己著想64F 04/19 08:27
推 s9018124: 所以我等到PS+免費 爽啦67F 04/19 08:27
→ Mimmature: 想賺錢有什麼問題? 不要在用這種情緒勒索68F 04/19 08:27
噓 nanami56: 有些遊戲就死都不打折啊,拿槍逼你打折了?70F 04/19 08:28
推 egg781: 每個人的心中都有一個價錢,等打折才買你的遊戲72F 04/19 08:30
→ egg781: 那代表有些消費者覺得你的遊戲大概就這個價74F 04/19 08:30
→ lomorobin: 其實夠屌就跟你索老闆說不要幫我特價啊,但是你銷售數字就是慘到還必須幫你丟掉Steam上。75F 04/19 08:30
推 s921619: 每個人心中都有一把尺 什麼樣的東西花什麼樣的錢買77F 04/19 08:31
推 Pegasus99: 這麼邱 那就退出Steam啊 Steam太多遊戲打折惹 簡直破壞遊戲界皇城內的安寧79F 04/19 08:31
推 Reficuly: 我可以全額買麥塊,兩三套都可以81F 04/19 08:31
→ s921619: 有本事你就不降價一直大賣82F 04/19 08:31
→ spfy: 像那個教育遊戲 心胸寬大 再便宜都沒關係 就是要讓你受教83F 04/19 08:31
推 LABOYS: 我還以為特價是跟平台談的呢,就是說我要上你們平台,然後84F 04/19 08:31
→ LABOYS: 回饋是特價,原來是自己老闆決定的喔86F 04/19 08:32
推 w94b06: 沒人說想賺錢不對 但講成這樣就是難看是事實 不然要PR部門幹嘛 你敢講玩家就敢炎上 自己拿出來唱還不讓人講才叫情緒勒索88F 04/19 08:32
推 Sasamumu: 哈哈哈這下子那些特價買的人大概也不會買了,真有你的92F 04/19 08:32
→ egg781: 不爽就學光榮硬頸,我就死豬價,要很多年以後才可能打到骨折93F 04/19 08:32
→ Pegasus99: Rimworld: -10%就是我的極限 玩家:(瘋狂爆買)94F 04/19 08:32
推 DON3000: 沒續作我也不介意 哈95F 04/19 08:32
推 u9596g12: 這款沒續作還真的沒啥感覺就是了98F 04/19 08:33
推 allanbrook: 笑死 你心裡想想就算了 講出來是不是誤會了什麼99F 04/19 08:33
推 exile4sih: 說實在的,以現在這種付費公廁的風氣,誰要全價買?471F 04/19 17:20
推 ranke96: 我就問
敢不敢把遊戲做得更好玩一點473F 04/19 21:11
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